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World's new ideas.

Postby RBA » 16 Sep 2010, 21:36

Hmm, I'm posting some ideas I have here for some new things to add to World.

First idea I had, is for when they'll split performance/tuning into theirs own separate entities.

For performance, I guess they'll give us the normal line, engine/ECU/tires/turbo/etc. That's great, BUT, those are only upgrade parts. There's other way to up the power of a car. They should cut the performance in two again, one sub-category being the normal upgrade we get in the previous games and another one being an engine swap.

Yes engine swap. Don't people do it all of the time?

I mean, look at the Charger for example. We get the R/T one, engine is not specified, but I'd say it's at max the 440, not even magnum. But, just putting the 426 HEMI under the hood and the car would get a lot more of power. I mean, Chrysler had to lower the true numbers of HP of the engine so insurances companies and other authorities let it be sold on the streets.

Another one would be example would be swapping a modern engine in an older car. As long as an engine fit in an engine bay, it's possible to put it in. Some minor tweaks are need IRL, but that shouldn't bother us much, as we're not installing the parts for real (I mean, they're installed for us; we don't need mechanical knowledge to play NFS games, or at least not much).


Another thing, cars shouldn't be stuck into a tier. By that I mean, it is normal that a Honda Civic, for example is a tier1 car at start. But with the mechanical upgrades, it should eventually reach tiers 2, then tiers 3 and so on. The only reason that people IRL don't have a Civic as powerful as a Ferrari, is that the Ferrari cost less to buy than it cost to upgrade the Civic. But, World isn't the real world, right?

At one point, when the team of World have put all the bugs out and updated a lot, I think it would be nice to make an avatar, just like you could in Juiced 2. That might not give much, but it's always a nice touch.

And adding music while in game would be nice too. Right now, the only music I've noticed is in the "garage" or in cop chases.

Now, about the Visual parts. It would be nice to be able to have pre-made vinyls. What I mean, is that right now, we get lines, forms and stuff like that. Some peeps are gonna make REALLY nice things outta 'em. Others like me... Anyway, so it would be nice to have vinyls like the one in Underground 1,2 and MostWanted (the robots thingy, angels and others... You see what I mean?). I dunno if that's what they're planning, but it would be nice to be able to decide what front bumpers we want to put on independently of the rear one or the sideskirts we put on, just like in UG and UG2. Bodykits would also be nice to have, but like IRL, the should cost more than just detached parts. The return of custom front lights/rear lights would be a welcomed thing I think too.

Besides adding cars that I'd like to see in, that's most of the ideas I have.
What are YOUR ideas?
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Dr Houbenheimer » 17 Sep 2010, 10:00

Ok first I'll let you here my take on your ideas...

Splitting performance/visual tuning - I agree with you completely, as do the majority of the community. I actually think that this will happen in the new update, as the improved performance custimization looks to have its own section, so we'll have to watch this space. Some more choices visually in terms of bodyparts as well - I'm happy with full bodykits, but it would be nice to have about 5 kits per car minimum, and a seperate selection for rims.

Engine Swap - Again a nice idea, doubt that'll be included though. Maybe a bit over-the-top for the majority of noobs out there, a lot of people play NFS but aren't too clued up when it comes to cars themselves. Also don't see this as a high priority thing, I'd rather see them add servers, stabilise the game etc.

Cars being able to change tiers - Once again, I am in agreement, I'd love to see cars being able to move tiers, maybe with some restrictions though, like up 1 tier max., we don't want to get too out out of control :) But if people are in love with their lower tier car, they can spend that bit more maxing it to it's absolute limits and be able to compete with higher tier rides. It also makes the races more varied in terms of cars, instead of everyone driving the same few cars in each tier you've got those people with lower tier cars racing as well, creates a bit more variety. Don't see why not!

Avatar's - once again, it's pretty minor, but it's better than those symbols you could choose at the start of your account.

Music - They were thinking about a inbuilt music player that controls your itunes/media player but decided against it due to its memory usage, but some ingame music would be nice. It'll be interesting to see what way EA go with that.

Vinyls - I agree that a wider variety of vinyls should be created, I'd love to see the different animals. characters etc. more from Prostreet than the UG series (because they work better with the vinyl system) but I think premade vinyls such as the unique vinyls from UG2 would mean that your gonna have a lot of people driving around in the same design, and I think an important factor for World is the unique identity that each car holds.

I'll edit this post with my own suggestions when I have time.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby RBA » 17 Sep 2010, 12:54

For engine swap as I said, there's no need to know what it is for it to work. As long as they see that the power bar go up with the different engines.

Also, I'm not saying that it should be made BEFORE repairing what's important. I mean, yes, there's quite the lag, and at one point, cuz of it, the cops wouldn't even send messages. I also noticed (and maybe you have too) that the cops says "tri-city". That should be changed too, I mean, wasn't Tri-City the name of the city of Undercover?

For the tiers, I do not agree, there shouldn't be a limit to the tiers a car could reach. A car, can be modded to go to 1000HP whatever the is. Heck, a Lada could be tuned to a 1000 HP car. Though, tiers3 mod parts should cost more for a tiers1 based car just like IRL.

And about characters vinyls, I do see what you mean, but as I said, some guys really make cool things out of what is given in World right now, while others like me would make crappy looking cars, or would end not doing any vinyls mods to theirs cars, because they know they wouldn't be able to make something cool. I'm the second type. I tried to make something cool looking in Carbon and it looked quite... MEH.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Dr Houbenheimer » 17 Sep 2010, 13:28

Yeah it's definitely too different tuning styles (UG1/2 compared to Carbon/Prostreet/SHIFT) and I think World fits into the latter catergory, so it's just unfortunate that it doesn't suite you.

And yeah, I know they say Tri-City, I think they reused the cop chat from Undercover, and I doubt seeing them recording a whole new set of recordings to get rid of that minor hiccup.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby ElvenAvenger » 17 Sep 2010, 15:26

Engine Swaps and Tier changes depending on the car=Epic win.
Take Supra, im sure after a bit of tuning it could do as good as an exotic.

Why not tune it to be as fast as the R8 or Lamborghini? it is possible IRL isnt it?

Same with a Skyline R34.

But i dont think they are going to do that

If i upgraded my Silvia to be Tier 2, i wouldn't need another car slot for a T2 car.
Means highly decreased chance of me buying garage slots with speedboost, and that means less money for EA. (not that im going to buy any spots...)
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby RBA » 17 Sep 2010, 21:33

Well, I don't think that would be a problem, as some people won't buy slots even if there's no way to upgrade a tiers 1 into a tiers 2 and so on.

And yes, IRL it is possible. There's a lot of tweaking and such, but that shouldn't bother us since the game is arcade type, which mean that parts just install themselves without us having to do a thing. The only reasons why I think they wouldn't do it is because it would give "bad press" to the exotics car makers. I'm pretty sure that Ferrari wouldn't like it one bit if a Toyota Trueno AE86 would outrun theirs cars. Still, I say they should do it, not everybody like exotics/supercars. I mean, besides the R8, there's not much exotics/supers that interest me.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Dr Houbenheimer » 18 Sep 2010, 00:36

Yeah, see I would agree with that, you should be able to upgrade the tier 2 high end tuners (Supra, Skyline, etc.) to be as fast as the tier 3 beasts, but a Mazda Speed 3 for instance? No, I think I'd leave it at 1 tier higher max, unless they expand it to 4-5 tiers later on, where I'd be happy to bring the max tuning limit up to 2.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby RBA » 18 Sep 2010, 03:44

Dr Houbenheimer wrote:Yeah, see I would agree with that, you should be able to upgrade the tier 2 high end tuners (Supra, Skyline, etc.) to be as fast as the tier 3 beasts, but a Mazda Speed 3 for instance? No, I think I'd leave it at 1 tier higher max, unless they expand it to 4-5 tiers later on, where I'd be happy to bring the max tuning limit up to 2.


Why not? Ever thought what would be a Mazda Speed 3 with the RX-7 engine under the hood? Then what it would be with a RX-7 tuned up engine?

As I said, and I know, since it's one of my mechanic teacher back when I tried to become a mechanic, any car can be pumped up to 1000 HP ++. Now, it's only a matter of cost.

Maybe to make a tiers one become a tiers 2 you'd have to pay double the price of upgrades, then triple for it to become a tier3, etc...
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Wolfseye » 18 Sep 2010, 20:13

How about first putting in a proper Damage System which will require repair costs to get rid of the a**** that have the most joy in only ramming people for fun. A ghost Mode would be a second alternative for that, but I guess a damage system would be better in the end.

Before people leave the game because they are annoyed by those f**** i**** that only ram !

And no, I am not talking about the Lag rams or the ones that just happen in a racing game or real life racing, thats not what I mean.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby RBA » 19 Sep 2010, 02:08

If you talk about ramming peeps willingly while racing, I agree, but to make it woke, it should be automatic. By that I mean, that the car get repaired at the end of the race AND that you can't say yes or no. It just get repaired and you pay.

But then again, this is a two edged sword. The comp won't know who rammed who, so even if you don't play "ram the player" you will get damage yourself, which if you get rammed by too much "rammers" will make you lose the race none the less.

Also, why I mean automatic pay for repair and only in race? Because I like to play "chase the cops and blow them into pieces". Thus, if the damage to car perfs was always on, then, nobody would wanna get into cop chases. But cop chases are one of the fun of the game. Or maybe, there should be some kind of counter, that count the number of hit you make to other cars. Sometimes hitting other players non willingly happens. But a "professional rammer" will have a lot more hits than in a race than somebody who hit someone by accident. So that counter would have a limit like 10 hits to other players max. Then if somebody go over that, they get thrown out of the race (automatic lose) and maybe lose money as a consequence and also, the more and more they get thrown out of races, the higher is the cost (For exemple the first automatic throw out cost 100$, the second 300$ and so on.)
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby BloodCry » 19 Sep 2010, 04:18

yeah we diffinatly need egine swaps, adding in more complex stuff to get people to know more about cars, like Engine swaping say u put a RB30 into a s15 or something like that so yeah i reckon they need to. otherwise were guna hav nerds who dont know anything about cars! :D
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Wolfseye » 19 Sep 2010, 14:48

You know what I like here on this Site, people understand things and don't just throw some bad stuff around someones ear without even listening of what he wants. I can't say the same for certain people on the EA forum. Its really making me quite mad.

Best example, the guy called: GrieverXVII

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/ ... ge#8427988

Its really hard to not get mad with people like this.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby ElvenAvenger » 19 Sep 2010, 17:34

This Inviegle guy...



Another one of the "Well, i cant drive for shiznit, i wallride even at 50 km/h, so im just gonna ram you because otherwise i would never make it past level 1 as i'd never finish a race without ramming someone." type.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby RBA » 19 Sep 2010, 18:49

There's always peeps like that. I'm not really good at driving, that's why I said it can happen accidently to hit somebody while in race. I race alone, cuz I don't wanna anger people, and even then, sometimes, I hit the "bots". Maybe it have to do with the fact that I don't have a steering wheel, I find it difficult to keep the car staying on the same path. I'm always pressing left and right arrows keys to at least keep it as close as possible to a straight line. Perhaps that have to do with the time the servers receive what I'm pressing, perhaps, the game make driving with the keyboard sloppy. I just don't know.

I do had have another idea, after playing hitting the cop barrage. When your car get on top of a car, it being a cop or a drone, the arrestation bar shouldn't go up. I mean, you're on a car, the wheels still spins, and you're not cornered. just off of the road. So, I think that should be corrected. Another thing I noticed, sometimes races breakers just don't re-appears after a while. Sometimes they do, and sometime they just don't. I've noticed that the ones that mostly don't re-appears are the big sign in the casino zone (around the underground parking where you can hide form the cop), the ones at the entries of the stadium, and one that is around a 50%-50% of working normally or not appears ever again after bringing it down once is the grill thing that tell you the name of the uptown neighborhood you're entering (It's some kind of stylish iron forged grill, above a street with a pole in the middle of the road, close to the casino zone, just don't remember the name right now).

Even when you finish a pursuit, they don't reappears and the only way to make 'em get back is to exit the game and re-start it again.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Dr Houbenheimer » 20 Sep 2010, 02:25

Personally, I have a G27 wheel and I've been using the keyboard over it for World, though I'm not sure that it's compatible anyway..what I'm saying is I've always used the keyboard in the past and gotten so used to it that I occasionally prefer it to a wheel.

EDIT: Btw Wolf, I responded to those ignorant fools on your EA forum topic.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby rcgldr » 20 Sep 2010, 07:08

RBA wrote:Some pursuit breakers don't re-appear.
This is a known issue.

The grill thing that tell you the name of the uptown neighborhood you're entering.
That's the Diamond Plaza sign in Silverton.

exit and restart game
Running a single player race should restore all pursuit breakers.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Wolfseye » 20 Sep 2010, 10:46

Dr Houbenheimer wrote:EDIT: Btw Wolf, I responded to those ignorant fools on your EA forum topic.


Thanks man, not that I think that EA will care about some people like this Griever will or even the problem at hand, but guys like him must sometimes get some around their heads to understand how one should behave, and if he didn't care about the Ramming (which I am sure he is also one of those) or has no problem with it, why not shut up and don't post anything ?

Seems some other people also give him some reply on that ;) ... He really deserved that.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby RBA » 20 Sep 2010, 20:43

I tried to restore stuff with a single player race and thing still didn't get restored.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby rcgldr » 21 Sep 2010, 23:30

RBA wrote:I tried to restore stuff with a single player race and thing still didn't get restored.
It does restore some stuff, but apparently not the pursuit breaker that are having restore problems.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby RBA » 22 Sep 2010, 13:44

Well, I hope today's upgrade they're doing, will repair that.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby RBA » 24 Sep 2010, 01:27

Double post sorry.

One thing I'd like 'em to change is the way you get busted. You should only get busted if your car can't drive out.
Sometimes, I get busted because my car has hit a barrage and I'm only starting to gather up speed again, but a cop car is too close and VOILÀ, busted. :(

I hate that with a passion, hated it in MostWanted and Carbon too. Haven't played Undercover as of yet, but I guess they use the same parameters, cuz else, it would've been "repaired" in World.
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Zotic+ » 01 Oct 2010, 04:21

music, well what you can do for music is you press the home key (i think thats what is called, is next to the alt key) it will clos the game in a bar and play your music from there, it juss slows the game down
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Dr Houbenheimer » 01 Oct 2010, 06:11

I happen to have the G19 keyboard, so I can control any music from itunes/media player without minimising the game, it's quite handy :P
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby Zotic+ » 04 Oct 2010, 05:13

i dont ven play any music, the game runs 2 slow. even when its on min quality, and disabled windows aero(something like that)
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Re: World's new ideas.

Postby BloodCry » 08 Oct 2010, 01:05

is it possible to add some decals in? why do we have to buy boost cars that hav decals, why cant we position them on our own cars where we want!
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