Hello,
Since my friend was banned from leaderboard because he beat his own records without cheating, I ask a question:
How do you choose who is a cheater and who is not?
Where is a proof (video recording of the race, at least) for the drivers with the top times (at least for the first 30 to 50 of them) they did it without cheating. At least they had a transparency or some other thing for traffic.
I read a lot of people are complaning about your criteria how you choose (not that you know for the fact) whose time is genuine and whose is not.
Also I read a lot of crap about skiled drivers are able to repeat good time again and again - so if that is true why my friend got banned?
You need skill and knowledge of a track, lots of powerups and a bit of luck. Whoever says that they not need a luck IS a CHEATER.
So, according to your criteria, there is NO WAY that anyone gets on the top of leaderboard - if they do they are automatically cheaters. What is a point of leaderboard then?
Sincerely
Staracmrki
A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Hello,
we dont choose who will be on top, only criteria is do not cheat, do not use speedbug..
We have many ways to detect cheat/speedbug.
And if you have problems with ban, pm me ill explain..
Regards,
Djordje
we dont choose who will be on top, only criteria is do not cheat, do not use speedbug..
We have many ways to detect cheat/speedbug.
And if you have problems with ban, pm me ill explain..
Regards,
Djordje
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Hello again.
As I wrote above, my friend, Gosponsavrseni, was banned from leaderboard. He was driving whole day, successfully beating his own time on various tracks in single player. He spent a hole lot of powerups. He did it without cheats.
He did't know about speedbug. Neither do I.
Admins decided it's all about speedbug (although Gosponsavrseni is a skilled driver with many multiplayer victories and with STRONG distate for cheaters). They banned him without any warning and chance to prove his innocence.
Is it ok to bann somebody because EA did't fix a bug?
If he used a cheat, bann him, but for bug in the game?
You could not accept his result or warn him before ban him. That would be fair and responsible behavior.
Reading this forum posts I see he is not only one to whom you done wrong.
Change your policy, pls, because it's wrong!
Regards,
Staracmrki
As I wrote above, my friend, Gosponsavrseni, was banned from leaderboard. He was driving whole day, successfully beating his own time on various tracks in single player. He spent a hole lot of powerups. He did it without cheats.
He did't know about speedbug. Neither do I.
Admins decided it's all about speedbug (although Gosponsavrseni is a skilled driver with many multiplayer victories and with STRONG distate for cheaters). They banned him without any warning and chance to prove his innocence.
Is it ok to bann somebody because EA did't fix a bug?
If he used a cheat, bann him, but for bug in the game?
You could not accept his result or warn him before ban him. That would be fair and responsible behavior.
Reading this forum posts I see he is not only one to whom you done wrong.
Change your policy, pls, because it's wrong!
Regards,
Staracmrki
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Ok, you wanted it, heres in public..
After i banned him, he did 50 more tracks with cheat.. Sent you on pm all records? Tell him its not nice to lie, i know that he is your friend, but its not nice from him to lie to you too.. In past we gave ppl second chance, and 100% do same thing again, so we do not give second chance anymore..
You have warning here :
http://forum.nfsunlimited.net/viewtopic ... 41&t=20690 ,
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/index.php?p ... s&page=470
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/index.php?p ... s&page=465
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/index.php?p ... s&page=464
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/index.php?p ... s&page=462
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/world/leaderboards (top of the page)
Policy is wrong?
After i banned him, he did 50 more tracks with cheat.. Sent you on pm all records? Tell him its not nice to lie, i know that he is your friend, but its not nice from him to lie to you too.. In past we gave ppl second chance, and 100% do same thing again, so we do not give second chance anymore..
You have warning here :
http://forum.nfsunlimited.net/viewtopic ... 41&t=20690 ,
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/index.php?p ... s&page=470
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/index.php?p ... s&page=465
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/index.php?p ... s&page=464
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/index.php?p ... s&page=462
http://www.nfsunlimited.net/world/leaderboards (top of the page)
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Dear Mr Stevanovic,
it is nice to be accused and not to be able to defend yourself. When you get banned you can't log in anymore and that gives you no chance to speak for yourself. But, that is no surprise now that we know that people get kicked out from leaderboard without any warning first. Why give someone a chance to defend himself when he could actually do it and prove to the whole driver community of NFSW that this leaderboard is fake. Yes, I said it. This whole leaderboard is fake (actually times under place 100) and I ain't writing this to get back anymore, I am writing this to clear my name. First of all, I ain't been lying to my friend, my best friend that is, because I didn't realize that I used speedbug until you told me that. And when you said it, I was already banned, and seeing that you don't respond to my mails and any reason I gave up on the whole thing. But still, some things need to be said. I liked this game, and I was good at it, and I really hated hackers and cheaters. For quite some time now I am driving multiplayer seeking races that are not interesting to hackers and that you can actually win and it worked for me. But for some time now it became almost impossible to drive more than 5 races without hackers ruining it. So, as I was once 150 on the leaderboard, obviously without speedbug and all, I decided to try it one more time. I spent a lot of real money on cars, tuning and powerups, so I thought why don't leave a mark, to show how good I was. And I drove the whole day and night, and after some time I saw something wasn't right but I didn't know that was speedbug and how does that whole thing work. Besides, all experienced racers have for sure noticed that after last update of the game with new team escape events and this chat thing and all the game got so many bugs/errors that it became unpredictable at least. And I made a mistake believing I was fast enough to get to top 50 of the "honest" times on leaderboard. And that wasn't me, that was the error in the game. This is really important to say and repeat: I wasn't fast enough, it was the error in the game, and I didn't realize it in time and didn't stop. And I "became" a cheater and got banned. Although I didn't hack, didn't cheat, didn't get warned. I just got banned. Well, that's ok now. You know why? Because I know now that, as I am sure every driver who tried to get honestly to top 100 on the leaderboard knows, all that times in top 100 are fake. They are fake because the times are so impossible that it is in fact funny. But they are there, they are not banned, because this guys were smarter than our administrators and faked clever. Yes, they were clever. Why? Well, it is simple really. Do it like this people and you won't get caught: first do some/enough attempts to one race, and only after that use hack or speedbug and cheat. And whatever you do don't do more than one race a day. Because if you do, they are smart and you will get it. The point is to cheat smart, better to say one step at a time. One race per day is enough. And you will be on top of the leaderboard. And our administrators won't be able to ban you. Or maybe they will? Better watch out, 'cause they have double standards. Or triple, or you know what? Whatever...
it is nice to be accused and not to be able to defend yourself. When you get banned you can't log in anymore and that gives you no chance to speak for yourself. But, that is no surprise now that we know that people get kicked out from leaderboard without any warning first. Why give someone a chance to defend himself when he could actually do it and prove to the whole driver community of NFSW that this leaderboard is fake. Yes, I said it. This whole leaderboard is fake (actually times under place 100) and I ain't writing this to get back anymore, I am writing this to clear my name. First of all, I ain't been lying to my friend, my best friend that is, because I didn't realize that I used speedbug until you told me that. And when you said it, I was already banned, and seeing that you don't respond to my mails and any reason I gave up on the whole thing. But still, some things need to be said. I liked this game, and I was good at it, and I really hated hackers and cheaters. For quite some time now I am driving multiplayer seeking races that are not interesting to hackers and that you can actually win and it worked for me. But for some time now it became almost impossible to drive more than 5 races without hackers ruining it. So, as I was once 150 on the leaderboard, obviously without speedbug and all, I decided to try it one more time. I spent a lot of real money on cars, tuning and powerups, so I thought why don't leave a mark, to show how good I was. And I drove the whole day and night, and after some time I saw something wasn't right but I didn't know that was speedbug and how does that whole thing work. Besides, all experienced racers have for sure noticed that after last update of the game with new team escape events and this chat thing and all the game got so many bugs/errors that it became unpredictable at least. And I made a mistake believing I was fast enough to get to top 50 of the "honest" times on leaderboard. And that wasn't me, that was the error in the game. This is really important to say and repeat: I wasn't fast enough, it was the error in the game, and I didn't realize it in time and didn't stop. And I "became" a cheater and got banned. Although I didn't hack, didn't cheat, didn't get warned. I just got banned. Well, that's ok now. You know why? Because I know now that, as I am sure every driver who tried to get honestly to top 100 on the leaderboard knows, all that times in top 100 are fake. They are fake because the times are so impossible that it is in fact funny. But they are there, they are not banned, because this guys were smarter than our administrators and faked clever. Yes, they were clever. Why? Well, it is simple really. Do it like this people and you won't get caught: first do some/enough attempts to one race, and only after that use hack or speedbug and cheat. And whatever you do don't do more than one race a day. Because if you do, they are smart and you will get it. The point is to cheat smart, better to say one step at a time. One race per day is enough. And you will be on top of the leaderboard. And our administrators won't be able to ban you. Or maybe they will? Better watch out, 'cause they have double standards. Or triple, or you know what? Whatever...
Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Abusing game bugs for personal gain is also considered as cheating, and will get you banned as well. If you find a bug, report it, don't abuse it!
11 Rules of Conduct: http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/
- You may not conduct any activities that violate the laws of any jurisdiction including but not limited to copyright infringement, trademark infringement, defamation, invasion of privacy, identity theft, hacking, stalking, fraud and the distribution of counterfeit software.
- Post or transmit unsolicited advertising, promotional materials or other forms of solicitation in-game or in the forums.
- Abuse or exploit bugs, undocumented features, design errors or problems in the game.
Its clearly u used a bug and that’s the reason you got banned.
If we know a player on the leaderboard is using cheat or abusing a bug they will get a ban.
Of coarse a bug can happen that’s why we give players the time to report the bug times they made.
If players don’t report there bug times we will not continue cleaning a player there bug times but just give a ban.
11 Rules of Conduct: http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/
- You may not conduct any activities that violate the laws of any jurisdiction including but not limited to copyright infringement, trademark infringement, defamation, invasion of privacy, identity theft, hacking, stalking, fraud and the distribution of counterfeit software.
- Post or transmit unsolicited advertising, promotional materials or other forms of solicitation in-game or in the forums.
- Abuse or exploit bugs, undocumented features, design errors or problems in the game.
Its clearly u used a bug and that’s the reason you got banned.
If we know a player on the leaderboard is using cheat or abusing a bug they will get a ban.
Of coarse a bug can happen that’s why we give players the time to report the bug times they made.
If players don’t report there bug times we will not continue cleaning a player there bug times but just give a ban.
Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
I'll be happy when the cheaters get banned stated in Am 62. there are countless cheaters even in the top 20 but nothing gets done because they are seen as "legitimate", as you have noticed iv not bothered setting times in quite a long time because i am not happy how some people in the top 20 are able to set "good" times in the space of less than 5 minutes that goes unnoticed. I know im only an average skilled player but i know when someone is cheating, it takes me on average 5-10 tries on each track before i set a good time, but some people here seem to be able to do it in 1.. i mean Wtf is going on? Is it favouritism..
This post with just get brushed over like the majority of people who do not like how Top # are able to cheat and get away with it.. I record almost all of my leaderboard times to prove i dont cheat therefore people setting a top 10 time should "have" to record to prove that they are legitimate.
This post with just get brushed over like the majority of people who do not like how Top # are able to cheat and get away with it.. I record almost all of my leaderboard times to prove i dont cheat therefore people setting a top 10 time should "have" to record to prove that they are legitimate.
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Well,
I will say one more thing:
Admins of this leaderboard DO NOT HAVE way to find out who is a cheater.
What they do is a guessing based on statistics and their experience. I respect their experience, but it is not objectiv way of doing this. And they are wrong so many times.
First bad is going to EA for not taking care of bugs and not doing anti cheat upgrades.
Second is to the admins that do a BAD job with leaderboard. I use leaderborad just for personal times, and don't care which I am on the list.
I respect your experience, but Romans did not believe (based on their experience) that any army can cross Alps until Hannibal came Hhanibal ante portas.).
Have a nice time.
I will say one more thing:
Admins of this leaderboard DO NOT HAVE way to find out who is a cheater.
What they do is a guessing based on statistics and their experience. I respect their experience, but it is not objectiv way of doing this. And they are wrong so many times.
First bad is going to EA for not taking care of bugs and not doing anti cheat upgrades.
Second is to the admins that do a BAD job with leaderboard. I use leaderborad just for personal times, and don't care which I am on the list.
I respect your experience, but Romans did not believe (based on their experience) that any army can cross Alps until Hannibal came Hhanibal ante portas.).
Have a nice time.
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@ DANWISE
Yea I agree with you some or suspicious but suspicions or not enough for a ban, we need to proof it.We try to check as many players possible but 1 player already takes 1 hour and 30 min to only check the top 100 = 130 hours this time we just don’t have.
I also talked to DJ about video proof wen entering for example the top 30 track times.
The question is:
- Do we really need to start asking for video’s? Would it not destroy the leaderboard fun factor? Would players really start recording all there track times, or would everyone just stop driving for the leaderboard because it takes to much time to record, convert, and upload the video’s.
- Do we need to allow only single player times in top 50? Personally I think we should, most bugs or multiplayer times. But we always have been a single and multiplayer leaderboard should we really change that?
Btw just to add some info the date’s and times you see on the player profile pages or not right.
Those or the upload times to the leaderboard, not the real create date’s and times.
Yea I agree with you some or suspicious but suspicions or not enough for a ban, we need to proof it.We try to check as many players possible but 1 player already takes 1 hour and 30 min to only check the top 100 = 130 hours this time we just don’t have.
I also talked to DJ about video proof wen entering for example the top 30 track times.
The question is:
- Do we really need to start asking for video’s? Would it not destroy the leaderboard fun factor? Would players really start recording all there track times, or would everyone just stop driving for the leaderboard because it takes to much time to record, convert, and upload the video’s.
- Do we need to allow only single player times in top 50? Personally I think we should, most bugs or multiplayer times. But we always have been a single and multiplayer leaderboard should we really change that?
Btw just to add some info the date’s and times you see on the player profile pages or not right.
Those or the upload times to the leaderboard, not the real create date’s and times.
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
DEFEND THIS:Staracmrki wrote:Well,
I will say one more thing:
Admins of this leaderboard DO NOT HAVE way to find out who is a cheater.
What they do is a guessing based on statistics and their experience. I respect their experience, but it is not objectiv way of doing this. And they are wrong so many times.
First bad is going to EA for not taking care of bugs and not doing anti cheat upgrades.
Second is to the admins that do a BAD job with leaderboard. I use leaderborad just for personal times, and don't care which I am on the list.
I respect your experience, but Romans did not believe (based on their experience) that any army can cross Alps until Hannibal came Hhanibal ante portas.).
Have a nice time.
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POSSIBLE TO HAVE ALL 86 RACES TOP 30 TIMES FROM FIRST TRY?
AND DONT LIE AGAIN.. WHEN I BANNED YOU YOU DID ONLY 5 RACES... 2 DAYS LATER YOU DID 81 RACE WITH CHEAT/BUG.
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
This numbers are really nice, but what do they say? Well, nothing. Whose numbers are that anyway? Also you could of made em up as far as we're concerned.
Let us leave that alone. It seems you are missing the point. You banned me after 5 races without warning? That is even better. Thank you for pointing that out. All of those "honest" times people have in leaderboard and you ban me after 5 races I didn't even realized what is going on? Whoa! Masters! You really protect this from cheaters. When you banned me I asked an explanation, something. I got nothing.
I already said I didn't care anymore because I realized you have double standards. Now stop calling us liars, there is something really wrong here...
Let us leave that alone. It seems you are missing the point. You banned me after 5 races without warning? That is even better. Thank you for pointing that out. All of those "honest" times people have in leaderboard and you ban me after 5 races I didn't even realized what is going on? Whoa! Masters! You really protect this from cheaters. When you banned me I asked an explanation, something. I got nothing.
I already said I didn't care anymore because I realized you have double standards. Now stop calling us liars, there is something really wrong here...
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Those times are times you did your best times on all tracks. And if you think i made them up, you can check it, times are in speedapi available to all. And you lie again, i explained on pm to your friend what you did, after 2 days i considered to give you 2nd chance after severl pms your friend send me and i saw you did it again, so no way.
Regards,
dj
Regards,
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Hello,
I still think that this leaderborad can only be usefull for personal use and not in compare with others (unless you are comparing with a friends).
So, since you have NO REAL AND OBJECTIVE way to check if someone is a CHEATER then do not bother to find cheaters, because the way you are doing it is SELECTIV and NON OBJECTIV.
Asking a video proof would be usefull but since you think it's going to destroy fun factor why bother to pretend to be objectiv leaderboard? Obviously you are not, but your way of evading the answers is
I send pms on behalf my friend and I did't get an answer how he can conntact you since you baned him without warning. I never got an answer to that question. And you repeatedly accusing him of telling lies! I find this kind of behavior only in people who are knowingly doing something wrong and don't have courage to admit it.
So for conclusion, at least from my side:
1. YOU DO HAVE more then DOUBLE standards,
2. YOU DO NOT HAVE an instrument and reliable method to find cheaters
3. AND according to your admission you do it SELECTIVELY because you do not have enough time.
This leaderboard HAVE a FUN factor and that is all it is. Just fun.
Dear players, DO NOT think about these times as reliable and real, BECAUSE of MANY bugs in the game, CHEATERS and IMPOSSIBILITY to strictly find all of those who cheats.
With regards,
Staracmrki
I still think that this leaderborad can only be usefull for personal use and not in compare with others (unless you are comparing with a friends).
So, since you have NO REAL AND OBJECTIVE way to check if someone is a CHEATER then do not bother to find cheaters, because the way you are doing it is SELECTIV and NON OBJECTIV.
Asking a video proof would be usefull but since you think it's going to destroy fun factor why bother to pretend to be objectiv leaderboard? Obviously you are not, but your way of evading the answers is
I send pms on behalf my friend and I did't get an answer how he can conntact you since you baned him without warning. I never got an answer to that question. And you repeatedly accusing him of telling lies! I find this kind of behavior only in people who are knowingly doing something wrong and don't have courage to admit it.
So for conclusion, at least from my side:
1. YOU DO HAVE more then DOUBLE standards,
2. YOU DO NOT HAVE an instrument and reliable method to find cheaters
3. AND according to your admission you do it SELECTIVELY because you do not have enough time.
This leaderboard HAVE a FUN factor and that is all it is. Just fun.
Dear players, DO NOT think about these times as reliable and real, BECAUSE of MANY bugs in the game, CHEATERS and IMPOSSIBILITY to strictly find all of those who cheats.
With regards,
Staracmrki
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
1. I have REAL AND OBJECTIVE way to check that times are REAL or FAKE like your friend did..
2. If im not 100% sure i ALWAYS ASK FOR A VIDEO to be sent on Honkes or my pm..
3. I sent you pm what is bugtime so dont lie again. Also explained to you how its caused by game, not told you how to cause it imidiatly for safety reason.. So again DONT LIE.
4. We make mistake maybe in 1 of 1000 banned players..
5. Someting not clear for your friend? Tell him to make a video of 10 tracks all 10 top30 from first time, im not asking for all 86 like hi did, only 10 tracks top30 times on all, one try for each. Start playing start video, finished 10th track stop video. If he did, ill unban him, ban myself, delete game and buy him 500k more boost..
2. If im not 100% sure i ALWAYS ASK FOR A VIDEO to be sent on Honkes or my pm..
3. I sent you pm what is bugtime so dont lie again. Also explained to you how its caused by game, not told you how to cause it imidiatly for safety reason.. So again DONT LIE.
4. We make mistake maybe in 1 of 1000 banned players..
5. Someting not clear for your friend? Tell him to make a video of 10 tracks all 10 top30 from first time, im not asking for all 86 like hi did, only 10 tracks top30 times on all, one try for each. Start playing start video, finished 10th track stop video. If he did, ill unban him, ban myself, delete game and buy him 500k more boost..
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
1. You DO NOT have REAL AND OBJECTIVE way to check anyones times, so DO NOT LIE!
2. It is insane to ask video after someone already had driven a track - you think people are recording all their races?
3. Do not understand what you talking about? You did told me about speedbug, that I never denied?! So, I DO NOT LIE
4. Your friend says that you do not have enough time to check all the times and players so your estimation of maybe 1 in 1000 is MORE THEN IRRESPONSIBLE and MUCH WRONG
5. I'll let my friend to answer you about this when he reads it.
6. Runnig this leaderboard as a referent for this game is mission impossible untill EA do not make cheating impossible and repairs bugs that have direct influence in a race time. What you are trying to do is for respect and be realistic:
Once again, this leaderboard HAVE a FUN factor and that is all it is. Just fun.
Dear players, DO NOT think about these times as reliable and real, BECAUSE of MANY bugs in the game, CHEATERS and IMPOSSIBILITY to strictly find all of those who cheats.
Did I say something wrong?
With regards,
Staracmrki
2. It is insane to ask video after someone already had driven a track - you think people are recording all their races?
3. Do not understand what you talking about? You did told me about speedbug, that I never denied?! So, I DO NOT LIE
4. Your friend says that you do not have enough time to check all the times and players so your estimation of maybe 1 in 1000 is MORE THEN IRRESPONSIBLE and MUCH WRONG
5. I'll let my friend to answer you about this when he reads it.
6. Runnig this leaderboard as a referent for this game is mission impossible untill EA do not make cheating impossible and repairs bugs that have direct influence in a race time. What you are trying to do is for respect and be realistic:
Once again, this leaderboard HAVE a FUN factor and that is all it is. Just fun.
Dear players, DO NOT think about these times as reliable and real, BECAUSE of MANY bugs in the game, CHEATERS and IMPOSSIBILITY to strictly find all of those who cheats.
Did I say something wrong?
With regards,
Staracmrki
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djstevanovic
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
What your friend did its real and objective and he deserve ban, noone can do this legaly. Banning player for doing waterfront road in 20 sec is real and objective. Banning player for doing all races top records from first try is real and objective. This site has rules, if you do not agree with one or all you have option to remove driver. For me every driver is equal, #1 or #1000, dont respect someone more someone less, all same. Abut 1 mistake of 1000 you dont read carefuly, i said one wrong baned from 1000 baned players. And if you think just two of us are checking you are wrong, all users participate in reporting wrong times, every day i have 20 pm-s minimum about possible cheaters, obvius cheaters, bugtimes... You have on this site like any other site, when you enter nfsworld leaderboards on top you have mail to report cheaters, your bugtimes, problems.. Below comments you have rules. On this forum you have rules.. Who do not play by rules will be banned end of story.. Evryone knows to add driver and check times, but all missed to read site rules, and all players need special warning? One more time, i do not care who will be first, who will be last, all of racers are same to mo.. End of story..
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dj
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dj
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djstevanovic
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Forgot about video, you dont have to record every race, and if you do some time, you are able to do it again, right?
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Staracmrki
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
Dear players, DO NOT think about these times as reliable and real, BECAUSE of MANY bugs in the game, CHEATERS and IMPOSSIBILITY to strictly find all of those who cheats.
Did I say something wrong?
With regards,
Staracmrki
Did I say something wrong?
With regards,
Staracmrki
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Re: A way to recognize a cheater on Leaderboard
-Clearly you got offended that you got banned.
-But we don’t care because you used/abused a bug.
- We do have real and objective ways to check players times.
-Only we don’t tell about the system that we use.
-We also do ip checks on Trainer websites.
-If we ban we do it with a good reason and can proof it.
-But we don’t always give the real proof from there cheating.
-This is all because we want to protect or detection system.
-All times on the leaderboard or real and I can re drive them all.
-This dos not mean all times from players on the leaderboard or real.
-If we have any suspicions a player cheats in anyway, they will get a check sooner or later.
-And yes Dj is right maybe we have 1 from the 1000 bans wrong.
-If we make a mistake we or not afraid to recognize or mistake and unban the player.
-Is or system 100% bulled proof? No.
-But we make this leaderboard as clean and fair as possible.
-With other words this discussion is now closed.
-But we don’t care because you used/abused a bug.
- We do have real and objective ways to check players times.
-Only we don’t tell about the system that we use.
-We also do ip checks on Trainer websites.
-If we ban we do it with a good reason and can proof it.
-But we don’t always give the real proof from there cheating.
-This is all because we want to protect or detection system.
-All times on the leaderboard or real and I can re drive them all.
-This dos not mean all times from players on the leaderboard or real.
-If we have any suspicions a player cheats in anyway, they will get a check sooner or later.
-And yes Dj is right maybe we have 1 from the 1000 bans wrong.
-If we make a mistake we or not afraid to recognize or mistake and unban the player.
-Is or system 100% bulled proof? No.
-But we make this leaderboard as clean and fair as possible.
-With other words this discussion is now closed.