Official Shift Discussion Thread (Half-Life 2)

BrontoX · Post by **BrontoX** » 16 Dec 2006, 23:46

So can you give us an aproximative release date?

korge · Post by **korge** » 16 Dec 2006, 23:48

No promises but we will have some new media by early 2007, but a finished product? I wish I knew! lol..

Picc84 · Post by **Picc84** » 17 Dec 2006, 00:01

Korge, Talk to me on msn for a bit...

korge · Post by **korge** » 17 Dec 2006, 04:28

Btw, HazMat and TheStig are officially on the team... Expect update soon.

Picc84 · Post by **Picc84** » 17 Dec 2006, 04:34

haha, wow that looks sick!!!

Post by **TheStig** » 17 Dec 2006, 07:56

I'm working hard on finding the best and coolest European tuners and JDM cars for the game.

The Import list is atm 90% done (estimate)

xHaZxMaTx · Post by **xHaZxMaTx** » 17 Dec 2006, 08:05

Hey look, it's a very low-poly model of a Suzuki Rodeo!

This is just going to be street traffic. I guess Korge is looking into how to do textures.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 17 Dec 2006, 09:27

just a question ...... what kind of carlist can we expect

korge · Post by **korge** » 17 Dec 2006, 15:44

Jacoja, could you help Stig out with the Aus car list?

xHaZxMaTx wrote:Hey look, it's a very low-poly model of a Suzuki Rodeo! This is just going to be street traffic. I guess Korge is looking into how to do textures.

Looks good.. How are we going to do the front grill, Bumpmapp?

darknight788 wrote:just a question ...... what kind of carlist can we expect

Oops.. I kinda deleted everything from the first post. Ill go back and re-add all the info. (and more)

EDIT: FIRST POST HAS BEEN EDITED WITH ALL-NEW INFORMATION!

blah2 · Post by **blah2** » 17 Dec 2006, 15:53

korge I guess I am here to dissapoint you.

That map is TOO FREAKIN HUGE. I won't say it's impossible. But you can do it in 2 ways:

The engine doesn't support such a big map. So if your map is divided by four (4 cities no?) you can put teh maps one on another. They will be linked by tunnels with portal textures for trigger, so when you enter a tunnel you get to the next city (which is on top) in teh same tunnel same position. BUT HERE COMES THE BAD PART: It will cause LAG, LOTS of it (better to say UBER LAG). portals reduce lag a bit, but increase compiling time to abut 4 days (too big map). Also as i know , the Source engine can hold approximatively one NFS U2 map that is chopped in half and put one over another.

or the second way: make 10 maps, then you can change them every time you get trough a map changer trigger (which is not laggy but loading time sucks, so if one racer gets to map 2 , every other one has to)

Sorry but I was a mapper and i know from experience. Now please reduce that map.

Edit: Also I don't think the 1st way will work. I give it a 35%

korge · Post by **korge** » 17 Dec 2006, 15:59

blah2 wrote:korge I guess I am here to dissapoint you.

That map is TOO FREAKIN HUGE. I won't say it's impossible. But you can do it in 2 ways:

The engine doesn't support such a big map. So if your map is divided by four (4 cities no?) you can put teh maps one on another. They will be linked by tunnels with portal textures for trigger, so when you enter a tunnel you get to the next city (which is on top) in teh same tunnel same position. BUT HERE COMES THE BAD PART: It will cause LAG, LOTS of it (better to say UBER LAG). portals reduce lag a bit, but increase compiling time to abut 4 days (too big map). Also as i know , the Source engine can hold approximatively one NFS U2 map that is chopped in half and put one over another.

or the second way: make 10 maps, then you can change them every time you get trough a map changer trigger (which is not laggy but loading time sucks, so if one racer gets to map 2 , every other one has to)

Sorry but I was a mapper and i know from experience. Now please reduce that map.

Edit: Also I don't think the 1st way will work. I give it a 35%

Dont worry. It will work. We will make it work.

As you can see, it will be chopped not into 4, but into 8. And not to mention that most of the power will be aimed toward the cars and the environment. Im not too worried about super hi next gen graphics. Im worried about getting the correct gameplay right.

BrontoX · Post by **BrontoX** » 17 Dec 2006, 16:07

That's what i like to hear gameplay not gfx

Also what is your Development Team called??

korge · Post by **korge** » 17 Dec 2006, 16:28

BrontoX wrote:That's what i like to hear gameplay not gfx

Also what is your Development Team called??

Wow.. Well we just started acuiring members so I guess soon would be a good time to comeup with something.

It would be some nice word or phrase with a meaning, then..
-Interactive
-Software
-Studios
-Games
-(Or just put nothing)

BrontoX · Post by **BrontoX** » 17 Dec 2006, 16:29

I have an idea:
Gameplay Iteractive/Entertainment

blah2 · Post by **blah2** » 17 Dec 2006, 16:32

I could reinstall HL2 and go to mapping again. But i need to know if i can join the team. I don't wanna map for the sake of shiznit. (for nothing i mean)

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » 17 Dec 2006, 16:35

TurboBlack Studios? It's an idea.

korge · Post by **korge** » 17 Dec 2006, 16:39

lol. I dont know about those names..

blah2 wrote:I could reinstall HL2 and go to mapping again. But i need to know if i can join the team. I don't wanna map for the sake of shiznit. (for nothing i mean)

The team is in need of atleast one mapper to start creating an example area where we can begin coding the gameplay. If you want to join fulltime till the end of this mod, I want to see your previous work.

If you would like to join as temporary, that is great too. It is all a matter of your attitude toward the game and how much time you are willing to put in(whether its fulltime or just partial).

taz947 · Post by **taz947** » 17 Dec 2006, 16:46

Ur idea is great but try to make NFS Carbon a game which was made by some kids.
Don't forget 2 put some aftermarket parts from Veilside.Like the Fortune kit for Rx-7

blah2 · Post by **blah2** » 17 Dec 2006, 17:09

I can map full time from Christmas to 5th of February 2007. After that only on saturday and sunday. And yes until the end of the mod if it worth it. (because soem mods just die after a period). So shall I install the game or not? Oh and previous work ? Wait.

Well since i reinstalled HL2 i guess all my work is gone, but as soon as i install the game i will map an example

korge · Post by **korge** » 17 Dec 2006, 17:14

blah2 wrote:I can map full time from Christmas to 5th of February 2007. After that only on saturday and sunday. And yes until the end of the mod if it worth it. (because soem mods just die after a period). So shall I install the game or not? Oh and previous work ? Wait.

Well since i reinstalled HL2 i guess all my work is gone, but as soon as i install the game i will map an example

Worth it? I guess you dont realize its only been a week since this mods announcement and not only is there 4 pages of notes, a bunch of concept and a working team, but also a huge amount of public interest.

This mod would be worth it and Ill be dmned if I let it die.

You obviously dont realize how much work went into this mod design so far.

blah2 · Post by **blah2** » 17 Dec 2006, 17:17

No I don't. I want to work on this mod but I don't wanna spend all my time on it. I can make roads very well. Also I can make suburban parts very well

So shall I or shall I not?

korge · Post by **korge** » 17 Dec 2006, 17:22

Sure. I just want people who are interested in this mod. Not just anyone off the internet who is temporarily bored.

Hope it makes sense. Welcome to the team.

blah2 · Post by **blah2** » 17 Dec 2006, 17:27

Not bored.

P.S: You are spending all your time on this thread, because you reply every 3 minutes. Curiosity kills me.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 17 Dec 2006, 17:45

i think alot of people are interested in this mod. BTW that carlist pwns every other car game i have heard of.
is this going to be a arcade game or simulation like ? i mean how are the cars going to handle realisticly or arcade like ?

blah2 · Post by **blah2** » 17 Dec 2006, 19:29

Acura 86-89 Integra
Acura 90-93 Integra
Acura 94-01 Integra
Acura 91-01 NSX
Acura 02-04 RSX
Chevrolet 82-92 Camaro
Chevrolet 93-97 Camaro
Chevrolet 98-02 Camaro
Chevrolet 95-99 Cavalier
Chevrolet 00-02 Cavalier
Chevrolet 03-06 Cavalier
Chevrolet 05-06 Cobalt
Chevrolet 84-96 Corvette
Chevrolet 97-03 Corvette
Chevrolet 05-06 Corvette
Chevrolet 00-04 Monte Carlo
Dodge 95-99 Neon
Dodge 00-02 Neon
Dodge 03-06 Neon
Dodge 90-93 Stealth
Dodge 94-96 Stealth
Dodge 92-02 Viper
Dodge 03-06 Viper
Eagle 90-94 Talon
Eagle 95-99 Talon
Ford 91-96 Escort
Ford 97-02 Escort
Ford 03 Escort ZX2
Ford 00-04 Focus
Ford 05-06 Focus
Ford 87-93 Mustang
Ford 94-98 Mustang
Ford 99-04 Mustang
Ford 05-06 Mustang
Ford 89-92 Probe
Ford 93-97 Probe
Honda 88-91 Civic
Honda 92-95 Civic
Honda 96-00 Civic
Honda 01-03 Civic
Honda 04-06 Civic
Honda 02-05 Civic SI
Honda 84-87 CRX
Honda 88-91 CRX
Honda 93-97 Del Sol
Honda 92-96 Prelude
Honda 97-02 Prelude
Honda 00-06 S2000
Hyundai 97-99 Tiburon
Hyundai 00-02 Tiburon
Hyundai 03-06 Tiburon
Infiniti 03-06 G35
Lexus 97-01 ES300
Lexus 02-04 ES300
Lexus 98-06 GS
Lexus 00-06 IS300
Mazda 04-06 Mazda3
Mazda 03-06 Mazda6
Mazda 90-98 Miata
Mazda 99-02 Miata
Mazda 06 Miata
Mazda 92-95 MX3
Mazda 93-97 MX6
Mazda 95-98 ProtÃ©gÃ©
Mazda 99-00 ProtÃ©gÃ©
Mazda 01-03 ProtÃ©gÃ©
Mazda 86-91 RX7
Mazda 93-97 RX7
Mazda 04-06 RX8
Mercury 99-02 Cougar
Mitsubishi 91-93 3000GT
Mitsubishi 94-99 3000GT
Mitsubishi 95-99 Eclipse
Mitsubishi 00-05 Eclipse
Mitsubishi 06 Eclipse
Mitsubishi 03-06 Lancer Evolution
Mitsubishi 02-04 Lancer
Nissan 95-98 200SX
Nissan 89-94 240SX
Nissan 95-98 250SX
Nissan 84-89 300ZX
Nissan 90-96 300ZX
Nissan 03-06 350Z
Nissan 91-94 Sentra
Nissan 95-98 Sentra
Nissan 00-03 Sentra
Nissan 04-06 Sentra
Nissan 95-98 Skyline
Nissan 99-02 Skyline
Pontiac 85-90 Firebird
Pontiac 93-01 Firebird
Pontiac 96-98 Grand Am
Pontiac 99-05 Grand Am
Pontiac 97-03 Grand Prix
Pontiac 04-06 Grand Prix
Pontiac 04-06 GTO
Pontiac 95-02 Sunfire
Pontiac 03-06 Sunfire
Saturn 91-97 SC
Saturn 97-00 SC
Saturn 01-06 SC2
Saturn 91-95 SL
Saturn 96-02 SL
Subaru 95-01 Impreza
Subaru 02-06 Impreza
Toyota 90-93 Celica
Toyota 94-99 Celica
Toyota 00-04 Celica
Toyota 84-87 Corolla
Toyota 88-92 Corolla
Toyota 93-97 Corolla
Toyota 98-02 Corolla
Toyota 03-06 Corolla
Toyota 85-89 MR2
Toyota 90-95 MR2
Toyota 00-04 MR2 Spyder
Toyota 82-85 Supra
Toyota 86-92 Supra
Toyota 93-97 Supra
Volkswagen 98-04 Beetle
Volkswagen 85-92 Golf
Volkswagen 94-98 Golf
Volkswagen 99-04 Golf
Volkswagen 85-92 Jetta
Volkswagen 93-98 Jetta
Volkswagen 99-04 Jetta
Volkswagen 05-06 Jetta
Volkswagen 98-01 Passat
Volkswagen 02-05 Passat

Dude. That's trippin. You're trippin. If you want to get that car list, you got to hire or get 20 modelers+ so it can be done by early 2007. A friend of mine Scionic can make a pretty detailed car (like nfsu2) in a week. Or if you want a car like nfs 6 it should be like ... 3 days. But still lots of work. Also you'll need coders to code the engine so it can "drift" , to code the cars so you replace the buggy with a car , you need to hex them, new hud , modify physics, hard coding , hard moddeling damn this gives me headaches.

As an advice, you should start with one moddeled car, any, and go for hard weeks and painstaking nights of coding. If you can find someone to code physics and the cars I SWEAR I will map all of it, ALL. I SWEAR.