Ugly Cars

boganbusman · Post by **boganbusman** » 23 Apr 2008, 01:28

The Aero 8 is hot. I would love to have one of those

Striker94 · Post by **Striker94** » 23 Apr 2008, 11:20

I thinks it's awesome with the exception of the headlights, which for some reason are positioned cross-eyed...

Yet more ugly cars-PEUGEOTS. (in general, not all)

Bandit1 · Post by **Bandit1** » 14 Jul 2008, 05:05

Anything with the name Prius

speed_man · Post by **speed_man** » 14 Jul 2008, 05:10

Yes prius sucks

RedCarDriver · Post by **RedCarDriver** » 14 Jul 2008, 20:39

speed_man wrote:Yes prius sucks

Priuses suck gasoline, too - in Top Gear's test, it got worse MPG than a diesel VW something-or-other.

xHaZxMaTx · Post by **xHaZxMaTx** » 14 Jul 2008, 21:07

That depends on how you drive it. You could ridiculously high MPG in a 'gas-guzzler' given an ideal situation (coasting down a hill with the car turned off

), or you can get the worst gas mileage in the world in a supposedly high-MPG car (going 60 MPH up a 30% grade in 1st gear

).

RedCarDriver · Post by **RedCarDriver** » 14 Jul 2008, 22:22

Either way, it was the same exact situation for both cars and the Prius got 40-some MPG while the VW got far higher - between 50 and 60. Look it up on YouTube.

EDIT: Err, actually it was this car:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Lupo

...the "3L" variant, probably - made to get better than 70MPG.

Post by **TheStig** » 14 Jul 2008, 23:51

uuuuuuuuuuuuuh DUH, that Diesel Lupo was build to do just that!

VW is working with high MPG diesels for a long time now, they started with the lupo 3L (wich is named so because it should do 3 litre at 100 Km, don't ask me about the MPG cause I can't be bothered to calculate it)
Now they are building the Blue Motion range wich are also high mpg diesel cars (less then the 3L because the Blue motion versions are full option where the 3L is stripped of anything that uses power (no AC etc)

Diesel cars always have a higher MPG so it's not that hard to get a higher MPG out of a diesel car then a petrol, if you can find a petrol car that has a better MPG in the city then a hybrid, please share.

RedCarDriver · Post by **RedCarDriver** » 15 Jul 2008, 02:42

Yeah, I sort of realized my mistake as soon as I posted that; maybe I didn't make it clear enough that I realized how stupid it sounded with the edit and in fact made myself sound even stupider.

Either way, I was trying to make the point that the Prius isn't the best choice when it comes to fuel economy; if they made a diesel Prius it might be better but heck, it'd probably be easier to buy a regular diesel car. In short, my previous two posts were not meant to say "the Prius is so terrible that 'EVEN' car X gets better mileage than it", it was more of "the Prius isn't even the top-performing car, mileage-wise - there are far better options".

Koenigsegg_Rox · Post by **Koenigsegg_Rox** » 15 Jul 2008, 07:55

RedCarDriver wrote:
speed_man wrote:Yes prius sucks
Priuses suck gasoline, too - in Top Gear's test, it got worse MPG than a diesel VW something-or-other.

To be more correct it was actually an E92 M3

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 15 Jul 2008, 11:41

Koenigsegg_Rox wrote:To be more correct it was actually an E92 M3

To be even more pedantic it was an E90 M3.
E90- Saloon
E91- Estate
E92- CoupÃ©
E93- Folding Hard-Top

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 15 Jul 2008, 14:32

Koenigsegg_Rox wrote:To be more correct it was actually an E92 M3

No, it wasn't. It was a Prius test where Clarkson complained about the Prius' low MPG, saying that the Lupo would be a better alternative. It wasn't a comparison test, just a Prius alone one.

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 15 Jul 2008, 17:14

PSZeTa wrote:
Koenigsegg_Rox wrote:To be more correct it was actually an E92 M3
No, it wasn't. It was a Prius test where Clarkson complained about the Prius' low MPG, saying that the Lupo would be a better alternative. It wasn't a comparison test, just a Prius alone one.

That was an earlier episode. Around 3 weeks ago one was aired where a Prius was raced around the track, and an M3 tasked with keeping up. The M3 managed better fuel consumption than the Prius.

Koenigsegg_Rox · Post by **Koenigsegg_Rox** » 15 Jul 2008, 17:35

exactly....

And I thought it was a coupe anyways....meh, same difference

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 15 Jul 2008, 18:02

Koenigsegg_Rox implied that RedCarDriver was wrong, but he actually wasn't, as he was refering to an older episode.

RedCarDriver wrote:it was the same exact situation for both cars.

In the latest season episode, the Prius was raced while the M3 only had to keep up. Thus the cars are driven in a different way.

Darn internet arguing. Reminds me of that special olympics picture.

donaldgladden · Post by **donaldgladden** » 16 Jul 2008, 14:41

in regards of MPG, the BMW 3 series turbo disel surpasses all . now if only they could bring it to the US. ANd the prius is actually campaignied to be a race car belive it or not, if it hasnt already. The batteries die out after about a lap and a half, but recharge themselves over the course of the race so the driver can run on them again. i'll see if i can get my scanner to work so i can scan the article out of car and driver.

Post by **TheStig** » 16 Jul 2008, 17:41

PSZeTa wrote: In the latest season episode, the Prius was raced while the M3 only had to keep up. Thus the cars are driven in a different way.

That is typical Top Gear, bending the facts so that the object they want gets the better result...

Top Gear is alot of fun and they have alot of cool car tests, but they have a bad habbit of making stuff better then it is, and making idiots believe those are the full facts while in fact it's just half the story.
Overall it was funny but anything but realistic...

ooh and talking about Ugly cars..

Today I saw a BMW X6.

I tought it was ugly on pictures and hoped they did not really build it...
Now I seen it in real life and I have to say:

It's even UGLIER then on the pictures, simply horrible!

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 16 Jul 2008, 18:22

You say that, but every Prius I ever see is driven moronically, thrashing the life out of it. Whereas most M3's are driven pretty sedately, besides at motorway speed.

As for the X6, it's ugly, but so are a lot of really good cars. And it's apparently an absolutely fantastic drive. AWD, perfect weight ballance, low centre of gravity and a twin turbo 4.0L V8.

Post by **TheStig** » 16 Jul 2008, 18:29

I'll believe you right away that the X6 is a good car to drive, but I wouldn't want to be seen in one.

As for the Prius and the M3 as you stated as always it's all about who is driving it.

Recentlty I see alot of Prius, and alot of them are driven fast and they are trashing them, the number of Prius has increased this year because from now on you get a discount on your lease if you get a A rating car, so you pay less a month then other cars, and you pay alot more if you got a car with a high Co2 or low MPG.

So they buy a hybrid because it's costs less a month, and drive it like there is no tomorrow.

Tunerfreak · Post by **Tunerfreak** » 17 Jul 2008, 11:20

Ive always not liked the Subaru SVX, theres just something wrong looking about it:

Bet someone posts the ass of a 4th Gen Prelude now lol

xHaZxMaTx · Post by **xHaZxMaTx** » 17 Jul 2008, 16:48

Are you kidding? I absolutely love the look of the SVX!

speed_man · Post by **speed_man** » 17 Jul 2008, 17:46

xHaZxMaTx wrote: Are you kidding? I absolutely love the look of the SVX!

You DO??

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 17 Jul 2008, 18:51

It's a gash 90's throwback. Bleugh. Disgusting.

Carcrazy · Post by **Carcrazy** » 17 Jul 2008, 22:39

Hey, give him a break... he drives a Miata.

lol

xHaZxMaTx · Post by **xHaZxMaTx** » 18 Jul 2008, 00:17

Actually, I drive a '92 Eclipse.

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