E-gear VS 6-speed manual w. clutch

[Andre_online]

I've searched high and low in this forum if this question has been brought up by anyone. But since I couldn't find one, I thought I should create one, and I hope this will blossom into a good discussion thread.

So this question has been on my mind since I came to know about the new technology of gear shifting in the motoring industry, and that's E-Gear. It provides convenience for the riches to unleash their inner speed demons preventing them from major embarrassment of stalling the car should he not know how to drive with the manual gearbox with the clutch pedal. However, despite my massive admiration for E-Gear, I don't see why people should even buy a supercar if they don't even know how drive a car with stick shifting; it absolutely drives me insane to learn that half the people driving the 'affordable' supercars like Lamborghinis and Ferraris, at the same time not knowing how to drive them in the traditional way. It is inevitable that when one owns a Ferrari or a Lamborghini, he would want to be perceived as the upper-class in the society, and many more are jumping into the bandwagon (in Singapore, that is).

So I shouldn't veer off-topic and digress. I'm not even sure if my argument was even linked. LOL! So both has its own pros and cons, and I believe you know what they are, which is why I shan't say anything and leave it open for discussion.

So my question is, given the option, which one would you go for? For me, on most circumstances, I'd go for the E-Gear.



P.S: I don't mean to be a sexist, but I'm just assuming that males are generally more interested in cars as compared to females. But if there are any females here, do feel free to share your views.

[RedCarDriver]

Six-speed manual FTW. No paddle shift, no E-gear, just plain mechanical shifting.

[taz947]

If we're talking about performance, I'll go with the E-Gear.

If you really have to drive the super-car everyday, the MT is my choice.
It's a pain in the bum-bum to park it with the E-Gear(or the Ferrari F1 Transmission).

[xHaZxMaTx]

Full manual, plzkthx. I want to drive - I don't want the car to drive for me.

[Andre_online]

If you really have to drive the super-car everyday, the MT is my choice.

Shouldn't it be the other way around? If I were driving it everyday, I'd put it in automatic mode and just cruise along.

It's a pain in the bum-bum to park it with the E-Gear(or the Ferrari F1 Transmission).

Actually, some cars have a dedicated Reverse button (or lever in Ferrari or Maserati's case). Lamborghini, for example, has it near the steering wheel.

[taz947]

If you really have to drive the super-car everyday, the MT is my choice.

Shouldn't it be the other way around? If I were driving it everyday, I'd put it in automatic mode and just cruise along.

It's a pain in the bum-bum to park it with the E-Gear(or the Ferrari F1 Transmission).

Actually, some cars have a dedicated Reverse button (or lever in Ferrari or Maserati's case). Lamborghini, for example, has it near the steering wheel.

Yeah, but the E-Gear in this case could be too rough for cruising along.

[xHaZxMaTx]

Don't most semi-auto transmissions have different settings for different driving styles?

Full manual, plzkthx. I want to drive - I don't want the car to drive for me.

I'd like to amend this statement and say that a lot of the driver aids you see more often in cars, today, seem to me like they would take most of what's fun out of driving a car. What with all the gizmos and gadgets, it's more like the computer is driving more than it is you. At that point, you may as well go ride a rollercoaster, or something. No launch control, no stability control, no traction control, no flappy-paddle gearbox; just give me 4 wheels, a clutch, brakes and an engine.

[Andre_online]

Unfortunately there's no way you can escape from those things when you buy a car these days. You can turn them off, but no chance of not having any ESP / ABS programs installed in the cars.

[steelsnake00]

Some non-manual boxes I really admire, like the VAG double-clutch box, and the later versions of BMW's SMG. The E-gear system sounds silly and overcomplicated. Electronics in gear changing FTL.

[viper16]

I agree with what Jeremy Clarkson always says "Flappy Paddle gearbox's are s***". Im for a true manual since you cant drift or do clutch kicks in a car with E-Gear.

[boganbusman]

Another vote for manual, but electronically controlled gearboxes are most certainly faster (until they break, of course).

[viper16]

Another vote for manual, but electronically controlled gearboxes are most certainly faster (until they break, of course).

yea and theyre alot more money to fix.

[Koenigsegg_Rox]

I'm assuming this would be a track scenario, because to be quite frank I don't give a shiznit what sort of transmission it has for a daily driver, just so long as it can be driven. In a track scenario the odds favour E-gear much more greater than manual. I'd take the Ascari A10-style Sequential, pull down to shift up, push up to shift down. Simple like a semi-auto, but fun like a manual. Best of both worlds.

[steelsnake00]

I agree with what Jeremy Clarkson always says "Flappy Paddle gearbox's are s***". Im for a true manual since you cant drift or do clutch kicks in a car with E-Gear.

Have you ever driven a car with a paddle box? In fact, are you old enough to drive? My old M3 CSL had a paddle shift SMG 'box and that was brilliant.

[viper16]

I agree with what Jeremy Clarkson always says "Flappy Paddle gearbox's are s***". Im for a true manual since you cant drift or do clutch kicks in a car with E-Gear.

Have you ever driven a car with a paddle box? In fact, are you old enough to drive? My old M3 CSL had a paddle shift SMG 'box and that was brilliant.

yes im old enough to drive. i have also tried a paddle shift car.

[steelsnake00]

What car? I had one for about 6 months and although the downshifts were a little jerky, it was brilliant, especially on a track.

[viper16]

Nissan 240SX it had this
http://www.tunersgroup.com/Products/Wor ... shift.html

[steelsnake00]

On a 240SX? As in 2.4, inline 4, no forced induction? No-one in their right mind would bother with such expensive kit on such a cheap car without at least popping in an SR20DET, so I'm calling billy bullsh*t on that one.

[viper16]

On a 240SX? As in 2.4, inline 4, no forced induction? No-one in their right mind would bother with such expensive kit on such a cheap car without at least popping in an SR20DET, so I'm calling billy bullsh*t on that one.

He has a KA-T boosting 12psi with a Turbonetics Turbo Kit. S14 Zenki

[Koenigsegg_Rox]

On a 240SX? As in 2.4, inline 4, no forced induction? No-one in their right mind would bother with such expensive kit on such a cheap car without at least popping in an SR20DET, so I'm calling billy bullsh*t on that one.

Lol ownt....I'm old enough to drive, but I haven't driven a semi-auto. The basis that I'm going on for this is, all the drivers in V8 Supercars that have sequential (pull down to shift up, and vice versa for down) are smoking the normal clutch 6-speed drivers. And they're all pretty much equal drivers, in pretty much equal cars. That and my DFGT steering wheel has sequential

[steelsnake00]

12 psi? That's almost nothing. My RS2-spec S2 Coupé was running at 32psi at one point. Again, a SR20DET would be much more economical swap.

[viper16]

12 psi? That's almost nothing. My RS2-spec S2 Coupé was running at 32psi at one point. Again, a SR20DET would be much more economical swap.

32psi wouldnt that blow your engine

[Koenigsegg_Rox]

Well obviously not...

[steelsnake00]

Not on a KKK26/27 hybrid with Pauter rods. Rods were good for well over 600 lb ft, and it was running 420bhp/440lb ft at 32psi (2.2bar). Anything under 1.5bar is foreplay

[viper16]

Not on a KKK26/27 hybrid with Pauter rods. Rods were good for well over 600 lb ft, and it was running 420bhp/440lb ft at 32psi (2.2bar). Anything under 1.5bar is foreplay

no wonder. all we have is a T3/T4 Hybrid with stock engine internals