American Cars or European Cars?

SuperString · Post by **SuperString** » 30 Dec 2006, 17:52

I'm gonna say just one thing. Look at americas best race car - corvette. Engine structure is really old and crapy, only 2 valves/cylinder and pushrod technology, with leaf springs and crap transmission. Then look at qualitiy and everything will be clear to you. Car is really badly made, there are a lot of new Z06s that literaly fell apart. Interior is even worse than in Fiat Punto. Although it preforms excellent for the buck, It just can't get in legue with 911 turbo or DB9. And don't forget in EU for that you get a BMW 650 that delivers a little less power than the vette, but a lot better overall quality.

korge · Post by **korge** » 30 Dec 2006, 18:03

TheStig wrote:
darknight788 wrote:here in america if your car/truck doesnt have atleast 300 hp it is considered underpowered or outdated.
You shouldn't worry about outdated cause most american cars are outdated before they reach the showroom. cause US manufacturers tend to use technologies that where used in the middleages, like leafsprings crued transmission systems and axels. with huge unsofisticated engines.

Wtf are you talking about? The car engine is Outdated.. Cmon, we are in the 21st century and driving Cars that run off fossil fuel.. Big and clunky and heavy... OOh I got A Nav System .. Next Gen.. Pfh... Cars are outdated.....

xturbo · Post by **xturbo** » 30 Dec 2006, 18:38

i also like porsches, so my vote goes to european...

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 30 Dec 2006, 18:48

darknight788 wrote:here in america if your car/truck doesnt have atleast 300 hp it is considered underpowered or outdated. its kinda funny to watch the competition while we the consumers benefit from very powerful vehicles (for the ones like me who dont care about fuel economy)

Well some of the big fat yanks should come and meet my next project car.
1.6, 300BHP, 4WD and 650KG. Mk3 Polo Coupe chassis, 140bhp 1.6 GTi engine and a Garrett GT2871R. Ought to be a good bit of fun.

MrPalmont · Post by **MrPalmont** » 30 Dec 2006, 19:54

Sounds interestig, probably good car

Tuners Rock · Post by **Tuners Rock** » 30 Dec 2006, 20:09

I gotto go with european, they make awesome cars. Lamborghini, Ferarri, Porshe, Aston Martin, Lotus, Maserati, they all rock!

krazyammo · Post by **krazyammo** » 30 Dec 2006, 20:12

European why? maybe becuz it's not so much into power and i forgot the rest

korge · Post by **korge** » 30 Dec 2006, 20:18

Tuners Rock wrote:I gotto go with european, they make awesome cars. Lamborghini, Ferarri, Porshe, Aston Martin, Lotus, Maserati, they all rock!

lmao.. whatever dude, you were just attacked for liking tuners to much.. No point in brownnosing now..

Tuners Rock · Post by **Tuners Rock** » 30 Dec 2006, 21:07

korge wrote:
Tuners Rock wrote:I gotto go with european, they make awesome cars. Lamborghini, Ferarri, Porshe, Aston Martin, Lotus, Maserati, they all rock!
lmao.. whatever dude, you were just attacked for liking tuners to much.. No point in brownnosing now..

I like Tuners a lot, but it doesnt meen that I dont like some other classes, I like Gallardos. Ill post pics in another thread showing these Lambo pics i took at a car show. I still like tuners more. The thread is Gallardo pics.

SKYLINEHUNTER55 · Post by **SKYLINEHUNTER55** » 29 Jan 2008, 19:50

WE LOVE EUROPEAN!!!!!!!!!

Especially the McLaren F1 and Buggati Veyron 16.4

Koenigsegg_Rox · Post by **Koenigsegg_Rox** » 30 Jan 2008, 22:51

Really the only good car to come out of America at the moment is the Ford GT in my opinion although the new ZR1 Corvette isn't looking too shabby.

Therefore, my vote goes to Europe.

xHaZxMaTx · Post by **xHaZxMaTx** » 30 Jan 2008, 23:19

American domestics may be pieces of poo, but I won't bash their looks - the latest Corvette and Ford GT are two of the best looking cars ever made, in my opinion.

S2000_Skyline12 · Post by **S2000_Skyline12** » 31 Jan 2008, 00:08

European. I love the sleek designs, the power and the allure that they have...like a 7-Series BMW, or a Vanquish..

Koenigsegg_Rox · Post by **Koenigsegg_Rox** » 31 Jan 2008, 15:08

xHaZxMaTx wrote:American domestics may be pieces of poo, but I won't bash their looks - the latest Corvette and Ford GT are two of the best looking cars ever made, in my opinion.

And the Dodge Viper used to be one of my all-time faves, that is of course until the Murcie was released....

chimpzrl · Post by **chimpzrl** » 31 Jan 2008, 19:58

I have to ask: Is it really fair to compare American and European cars?

Plainly, if you want to be stupid with a car (i.e. me), you should have an American.

If you actually want to drive the car quickly around corners, get a European.

I personally wouldn't drive a European car in the US because it would just be a waste. There are few places to really drive a car around here.

Conversely, I would not drive an American car in Europe because it would be too out of place, not to mention rubbish on the bendy roads.

Post by **TheStig** » 31 Jan 2008, 23:01

US sportscars are hardly ever sold in europe, mostly because they don't work very well over here (not that they are bad cars or anything, they often very big and build for US roads)

In a episode of TG they went to France with 3 supercars (Ford GT, Pagani Zonda and Ferrari F430) and they took a couple of small mountainroads with loads of corners and hairpins, and Clarkson said that the designers of the Ford GT most likely never knew roads like that existed in the world

Koenigsegg_Rox · Post by **Koenigsegg_Rox** » 31 Jan 2008, 23:30

It must still be good though because he bought one....

xHaZxMaTx · Post by **xHaZxMaTx** » 01 Feb 2008, 01:10

And all he's done is complain about it.

I remember hearing/reading somewhere that the Ford GT went on recall shortly after its debut due to issues with the suspension.

Post by **TheStig** » 02 Feb 2008, 02:36

It was his own car he drove in France, but he also sold his GT again because the car annoyed him so much and he bought a Gallardo Spider instead.

Koenigsegg_Rox · Post by **Koenigsegg_Rox** » 02 Feb 2008, 14:24

Didn't know that... I watch the shows, I don't pay much attention to anything outside of that.

Post by **TheStig** » 02 Feb 2008, 15:25

In season 9 or 10 he tells that he bought a Gallardo spider and got rid of the GT because it had to many problems.

SKYLINEHUNTER55 · Post by **SKYLINEHUNTER55** » 02 Feb 2008, 20:38

Another One from me

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 03 Feb 2008, 12:00

In all fairness to US cars, they are really upping their game, and despite what Clarkson says, theyre not quite as inferior as he makes out. Corvettes have had independant rear suspension since the '60s, and the ''leaf spring'' on the new Z06 is just another type of spring, which is lateral and sits underneath the rear wishbone. Not to mention its made out of a carbon composite...

What with the new ZR1, the Viper ACR and that damned Shelby thing, the US is finally competing where it counts. In all honesty, I still dont think theyre quite up to beating their European counterparts, but then it shouldnt come as a surprise that the best handling car of '08 will probably be Japanese anyway.

SKYLINEHUNTER55 · Post by **SKYLINEHUNTER55** » 03 Feb 2008, 20:08

The only cars that still are owned by their ony brand here in England is Land Rover as on the other hand Jaguar, Bentley, Rolls Royce and McLaren are owned by different car brands.

P.S. I'm not sure if Aston Martin is.

Koenigsegg_Rox · Post by **Koenigsegg_Rox** » 03 Feb 2008, 22:01

Jaguar is owned by Ford, Volkswagen owns Bentley and countless other companies, and I'm pretty sure Aston Martin became an independant company after being owned by Ford, not sure if that's changed or not.

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