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bashderq wrote:No offense steelesnake but there's no need to appear more superior to every post someone makes. I'm sure the facts you post are more than just correct, but I'm sure the reason most people don't bother to bring up names like McLaren and Zonda when comparing the GT-R to them is because they don't expect it to beat them and secondly the GT-R isn't a rival in their segment of the market.

And to be honest with a mere 5 McLaren LMs ever made, it can barely be classified as road legal even though it carried licence plates. The fact that a fully decked car with leather and aircon can lap as fast as a v10 hyper car is more amazing in my opinion.
yep, good points. Anyway, 1min 25?! OMG! amazing... =P~ [-o<

Man, if I ever get the money (or win the lottery), that's my first target after I've gotten my drivers licence and had a bit of experience...

Anyway, any SPECIFICATIONS? how did it lap it that fast? I heard about 100kg lighter, and more powerful, but any proper specs?
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It's 7:25, not 1:25 :roll:

I thought the simple GT-R got a new time of 7:29 and the VSpec got 7:25.
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According to MOTOR the V-Spec was 13 secs faster which would make it... 7:38? Sorry, brain isn't working properly tonight :)

Oh, and steelsnake, the FASTEST PRODUCTION CAR around the ring was the Carrera GT, not that McLaren whatever nor the Radicals because they are actually racing cars.
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U sure the Carrera GT owns the best time, I knew that the Zonda F has it.
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Actually technically yes, but is the Zonda F Clubsport classed as a production car?

If not, the CGT got 7:28, then it was the 997 GT2 with a 7:31, then the normal Zonda F with a 7:33. The F Clubsport got 7:27. Quote from the article:
In perspective, such a time slashes more than 13 secs off the best time recorded by the standard GTR and eclipses Walter Rohrls production car record of 7min 28secs in the V10-powered Carrera GT
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Has the Koenigsegg CCGT Edition posted a lap time around the curcuit?

And aboiut that lap time post-sorry, just a mistype.

Anyhow, back on topic-Anyone heard about a new Saleen? There hasn't been a new one for a LONG time...

Also, here's a random question-how could the Mclaren F1 hold the "fastest car" record for so long? I mean, technology would have enabled us to create another faster car a long time ago (lets say 3 years) before the Veyron. So why not?
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Koenigsegg_Rox wrote:Oh, and steelsnake, the FASTEST PRODUCTION CAR around the ring was the Carrera GT, not that McLaren whatever nor the Radicals because they are actually racing cars.
I don't know why you think that Radicals aren't production cars. They're road legal and produced by a manufacturer; they're not bespoke or kit cars.
bashderq wrote:But I'm sure the reason most people don't bother to bring up names like McLaren and Zonda when comparing the GT-R to them is because they don't expect it to beat them and secondly the GT-R isn't a rival in their segment of the market.
I accept that it's competing with far more expensive supercars, which is impressive. I ws just correcting facts.
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Ok, you are right lol.

it's just that MOTOR magazine said the Carrera GT was fastest, but it is the SR8 after looking on good ol' Wikipedia.

However the McLaren is not counted according to Wikipedia as a production car.

And the GTR V-specs time is official, however, what is even more interesting is the new Lexus LF-A which lapped officially 1 second faster.
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Koenigsegg_Rox wrote:Ok, you are right lol.

it's just that MOTOR magazine said the Carrera GT was fastest, but it is the SR8 after looking on good ol' Wikipedia.

However the McLaren is not counted according to Wikipedia as a production car.

And the GTR V-specs time is official, however, what is even more interesting is the new Lexus LF-A which lapped officially 1 second faster.
Hello! Kust got that issue as well (June 2008?), and according to the article, it was quite an unofficial time, as it was apparently timed by a by-stander with a stopwatch...

And the LF-A 1 second faster than the GT-R V-spec? I that's true, then...

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According to Wikipedia it's official.
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A prototype has allegedly been observed by spectators running laps in the 7 minute 25 seconds range
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PSZeTa wrote:
A prototype has allegedly been observed by spectators running laps in the 7 minute 25 seconds range
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That's a very decent post...

Anyway, sweet car, the "Eleanor" Mustang from "gone in 60 seconds" has been officially replicated, and it looks OMFG!
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I thought that bodykit was mass-produced anyways?
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For several years already, a US company makes official replicas with all details as the original in the movie.
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Striker94 wrote:
PSZeTa wrote:
A prototype has allegedly been observed by spectators running laps in the 7 minute 25 seconds range
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That's a very decent post...
i bet all 3.9k of his posts were as decent as that :roll:
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, The Cloth Car, though careful when you watch the video. The way the hood opens can be considered slightly pornographic.
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That. Is. Amazing.

And hawt. I have a raging semi.

EDIT: I just found out that GINA may be coming to my friend's tech school he's attending, WyoTech, and I may be able to go check her out! Can't wait.
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My eyes just fell in love: 2009 Lotus Evora
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I don't think I'd change any aspect of the exterior of this car... I love it. Lotus Design ftw.
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There are a few problems with the Evora I'm seeing already.

One is the engine. The power isn't bad, but the engine itself? A large V6 in the middle of a fairly lightweight 2+2 isn't going to hold up against some of the competitors- notably the Cayman S. Lotus should have stuck with a FI motor at the rear- there was talk of buying up some of the Audi 2.0 TFSI and 1.8 20VT powerplants which would have probably sat better in a light sports car than the big Jap V6. And if they had decided to go V6, then ITBs could have pushed that power output closer to the 100bhp/l that most companies aim for.

The second is putting it head to head with the Cayman and Cayman S. Personally the Cayman, whilst being less stylish, I think is much more masculine. It's also got a big head start in the sector, is faster and better equipped, more reliable and quicker round the 'Ring than a 997 Carrera. Unless Lotus can undercut the price of the Cayman they're going to have problems shifting them.
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Loving the look of it, but why is it a 2+2?
I can't even picture how they squeezed 2 seats and a V6 behind that B/C pillar :shock:

As for the engine, well maybe it's not the best but a 1.8-2.0 would not have enough grunt. The Evora weighs a lot.
The Toyota V6 is a proven swap for MR2 owners and it has decent aftermarket support too. I predict that there will be a factory supercharged version of this car, as Toyota/TRD already sells this V6 in s/c trim.
btw it's an all-alu motor so not that heavy.
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Why did they add the backseats? Nobody can sit there. :|
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boganbusman wrote:As for the engine, well maybe it's not the best but a 1.8-2.0 would not have enough grunt.
Highly strung, forced induction 4 I think is still better on a small, mid engine'd car. Unless it's an Esprit. V8 biturbo, please.
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Am I the only one who hates the way this looks?
http://www.7tune.com/2010-acura-nsx/#more-183
The original NSX looked awesome; the facelift (2000, I think) was horrible, and this looks even worse.
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steelsnake00 wrote:
boganbusman wrote:As for the engine, well maybe it's not the best but a 1.8-2.0 would not have enough grunt.
Highly strung, forced induction 4 I think is still better on a small, mid engine'd car.
But it's not really that small is it? I figured it was about Ferrari 430-sized, and those have V8s :-k
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