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Post by ^Sparco^ »

Do you like nfsu2 graphics?

They are beautiful for sure... too beautiful, isnt it?

Look the mega-Supra I have made. Yellow and CF hood and CF spoiler: wow! Awesome.

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Note: Pics taken by me.
Gforce FX 5200. AA off.



OK lets see what happens if we compare it with another game:
I tried to do the same yellow car. Not possible at 100%. Taken with the same gfx card, settings, resolution and no AA (like the nfsu pic)
Same pics quality (about 140kb) and image size

Notice the CF hood and CF wing. That is how CF looks actually, and not the crappy grey thing in nfsu.

Juiced Demo (September 2004) vs Nfsu2 final game (November 2004)


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Another one: AA 4x:

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What do you say now? LOL
look yourself in the mirror: :shock:

hehe....

A last little comment.... Parts in Juiced are from real life brands. This means that it is impossible to get a think like this in Juiced:

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:wink:

Now I challenge you to make a nfsu2 pic better than Juiced ones, and make me to shut up :D
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Post by EmptyWords »

i guess ur card is 2 weak for NFSU2
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Ok, try this on for size. Ill make it a link as its 1024x768 and near enough 500kb jpg file.

This is full options on, just a note this isnt my playable settings, as its too choppy, but this is what is possible.

http://www.squaresphere.co.uk/images/nf ... tangGT.jpg
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Post by ghost_4ce »

To asnwer your questions I would just give you a link to UrQuattro's Garage (which you have no doubt have seen)
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As Juiced hasnt released yet,IMO, it would be unfair for any type of comparison.

BTW |Neon|, that car is a pure waste. Seriously you can RICE a mustang, but with GREEN NEON??
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You want beauty shots? here they are!

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don't think this belongs here...

and I think it is a useless comparison!
as said before: NFSU2 is full game Juiced not availeble! and might not even be in stores AT ALL they way the game was planned before!

yeah the CF looks like SHT and the body of the SUPRA is to long... we know that alreay... it's a old JADA JADA JADA story!

SPARCO I sometimes WONDER why in the name of ZEUS's B*TTHOLE you bought NFS U2 cause the only think I see you do is WHINE about it! and say HOW GREAT JUICED is

yeah the JUICED DEMO looked nice but it also has MAJOR WEAKPOINTS
the background wasn't that good:
- it had the PUPPETPALS as CROWD.
- the overall view was a bit weird compared to other games (don't want to call it toony but just not really realistic)
YEAH NFSU2 had loads of lights effects and so on (also not realistic)

cars:
yeah they had real bodyparts and so on but:
- the headlights (and rearlight) where NOT made NICELY at ALL ---> just take a look at the new type CELICA!

like said both have their GOOD points and BAD points
if you can even compare a DEMO of a game that is planned NEXT year

BTW

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Post by ^Sparco^ »

nfsu2 pics posted by users: do you really think that those cars look better than my Juiced supra? .......
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EmptyWords wrote:i guess ur card is 2 weak for NFSU2
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I wrote:Taken with the same gfx card, settings, resolution and no AA (like the nfsu pic)
Same pics quality (about 140kb) and image size
Nfsu2 runs smoothly and Juiced not. So... which game do you think that requires a better graphics card? :wink:

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TheStig wrote:don't think this belongs here...
Why not?

It is a nfsu2/Juiced comparison. It belongs in nfs general discussion. Im talking about Need for Speed 8. I want people to see how much sucks nfsu graphics compared with other game. Once again, I am talking about need for speed, not about Half Life or another game.

Obviously the General discussion is more popular than The Games one.
This thread won't be read as much as it would be in the other section.
Im saying nfsu2 is not good, and I think this is why you moved this thread to Games.
TheStig wrote: and I think it is a useless comparison!
as said before: NFSU2 is full game Juiced not availeble! and might not even be in stores AT ALL they way the game was planned before!
Yes nfsu2 is a full game, so it shoud be better than a simple Demo Im comparing with.
It is not useless... I want to share my pictures, taken with the same gfx settings, and discuss about it. People can take their screens aswell.
TheStig wrote:yeah the CF looks like SHT and the body of the SUPRA is to long... we know that alreay... it's a old JADA JADA JADA story!
Apart from that, Im talking about the overall look of the cars. But thanks, I had forgotten the proportions thing ;) Another point against nfsu2
TheStig wrote:SPARCO I sometimes WONDER why in the name of ZEUS's B*TTHOLE you bought NFS U2 cause the only think I see you do is WHINE about it! and say HOW GREAT JUICED is
I also wonder that LOL :D
Well I had the money...
the main reason: Juiced is not going to be released till the summer.
and... I like nfsunlimited, the showroom etc. It is still possible to make decent cars. But TOO difficult. I like abstract art, but hate abstract cars.
TheStig wrote:yeah the JUICED DEMO looked nice but it also has MAJOR WEAKPOINTS
the background wasn't that good:
- it had the PUPPETPALS as CROWD.
- the overall view was a bit weird compared to other games (don't want to call it toony but just not really realistic)
YEAH NFSU2 had loads of lights effects and so on (also not realistic)
that is not important for me. I prefer well made cars better than well made crowds. I want to hear more weak points... cmon try to find them :D
TheStig wrote:cars:
yeah they had real bodyparts and so on but:
- the headlights (and rearlight) where NOT made NICELY at ALL ---> just take a look at the new type CELICA!
Well... (I dont agree) I think you can't purchase new lights, cause there were always the stock ones in the demo, which is a weak Juiced point.

Are nfsu2 lights better? LOL. Man there are 15 headlights and only 2 of them are semi-logical, and 4-5 good rearlights out of 15.

I dont care about headlights, since Juiced has got more beautiful: bumpers + wings + rims + muffler tips..... everything!!! :P
TheStig wrote:like said both have their GOOD points and BAD points
if you can even compare a DEMO of a game that is planned NEXT year
Sorry... which nfsu2 good points? :roll:
Oh yes! the 3D crowds which disappear magically when you start the race!!
And the awesome nfsu2 lights wow!! :lol:

Its like:
Juiced: 2 weak points
Nfsu2: 37 weak points

and you say: hey... Juiced is not perfect!! Nfsu2 rules!! :roll:
TheStig wrote:MOVED to GAMES
Thanks again.

I understand Im being harsh with nfsu2, but hey Im making awesome cars for the showroom aswell :D That is good to nfsu2 reputation! :P
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first your welcome!


let me explain!

it is a comparison! so is it about NFS... uuuh NO

if I would alllow a comparison in the NFS general section then it would be filled with comparisons with GT4... MMC, you name it!

it is about 2 games so.... GAMES!

and the excuse that it is read more when it is in the General topic... so what?

if that is the case why not place the most offtopic topic there? alteast then it would be read!


and yeah I get tired of your whining about NFS U2. but that is not the reason for this move!

now about the headlights... did I say I like the 5.7 million difirent headlights? NO...

I am talking about the stock lights they look better in NFS, no discussion about it! same goes for readlights!

and I think you choosen the wrong place to bash on NFS.. cause you are still on a NFS related site :roll: so expect some heavy resistance...

and it is all about opinions!

styling (game style) is personal so don't expect everybody to love the same things you do!

think about it!

BTW no hard feelings
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ghost_4ce wrote:BTW |Neon|, that car is a pure waste. Seriously you can RICE a mustang, but with GREEN NEON??
Rice?
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Sorry, i dont know the lingo :cry: green is my favourite colour, so meh:)
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the graphics are good but they are better on x-box
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|Neon| wrote:
ghost_4ce wrote:BTW |Neon|, that car is a pure waste. Seriously you can RICE a mustang, but with GREEN NEON??
Rice?


Sorry, i dont know the lingo :cry: green is my favourite colour, so meh:)
lol, oh well, each to his own.....
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yeh he means real rice...... serious man nothing else to it ;)
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Seriously, I don't see what is wrong with the green neon light..
It looks just nice, IMO.. :wink:
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Post by Drewb99 »

TheStig wrote:yeah the CF looks like SHT!
I don't see a problem with it when all Juiced does is paint the hood black.
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Post by ViperJay »

I think this NFSU2 - Juiced battle has gone on for a while yet (...and will go on again...)
I love NFSU2, but I agree with Sparco for some points.
The graphic is smoother, and car geometry looks better, but...we can know just this, cause Juiced is only a demo and NFSU2 not; so I will patiently wait for the full release to try it and see all the differences between NFSU2. Maybe it is really better than it, or maybe this little things are the only Juiced has more than NFSU2...Juiced is promising, so it can have equal success of Underground2, or better, or less...let's see asap...

btw, street racing games rule!!! 8) :D
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Well, if it ran Juiced better than NFS U2, then it shouldnt be weaker. Man, I think juiced has better graphics. No ugly wide body kits unlike NFSU2.
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The Widebodys on NFSU2 are the worst, which is true. But the CF hood is WAY better than juiced! I've seen a REAL CF hood on a CRX and it had a style similar to nfsu. NOT similar to Juiced. All juiced does is paint the hood black and says it's cf. Also, the Juiced lights are NOT realistic. In fact, they SUCK...

The point that NFSU2 is a bright game, which i mean that it's very full of light, is normal. Think of New York City, China, every place filled with animations on windows and casinos all over the place. EA made a fantasy city with similar thoughts to the real ones. Think of your own city in that style, I bet you will come up with very similar things.

The Juiced people are cardboard.

The neons in Juiced are like old NFSU1 style, which is unrealistic.

If I had to choose a Racing Game of the Year, It would be NFSU1! Shocking, huh? NFSU1 is old, but is better than Underground 2.
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yeah the CF in NFS U2 isn't totally bad. but IMO it is to light in color.

I think they should just have made it abit darker and it would be perfect. cause it got the structure.

then again I juiced you can choose a BLACK hood and I don't know if the car SPARCO has is a real CF hood... cause in my demo the cf looks pretty good... it got cf struckture and all..

if they guys from EA jsut made the CF a tint darker it would be great... especially on the hoods it often looks really light grey
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yeah, your right.
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^Sparco^ wrote:Do you like nfsu2 graphics?

They are beautiful for sure... too beautiful, isnt it?

Look the mega-Supra I have made. Yellow and CF hood and CF spoiler: wow! Awesome.

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Note: Pics taken by me.
Gforce FX 5200. AA off.



OK lets see what happens if we compare it with another game:
I tried to do the same yellow car. Not possible at 100%. Taken with the same gfx card, settings, resolution and no AA (like the nfsu pic)
Same pics quality (about 140kb) and image size

Notice the CF hood and CF wing. That is how CF looks actually, and not the crappy grey thing in nfsu.

Juiced Demo (September 2004) vs Nfsu2 final game (November 2004)


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Another one: AA 4x:

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What do you say now? LOL
look yourself in the mirror: :shock:

hehe....

A last little comment.... Parts in Juiced are from real life brands. This means that it is impossible to get a think like this in Juiced:

Image

:wink:

Now I challenge you to make a nfsu2 pic better than Juiced ones, and make me to shut up :D
Awesome!!! 8)
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Post by macdaddy »

Yeah, but in NFSU2 you have the crazy skill that is STEERING A FREAKING CAR.
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^Sparco^ wrote:Do you like nfsu2 graphics?

They are beautiful for sure... too beautiful, isnt it?

Look the mega-Supra I have made. Yellow and CF hood and CF spoiler: wow! Awesome

Note: Pics taken by me.
Gforce FX 5200. AA off.



OK lets see what happens if we compare it with another game:
I tried to do the same yellow car. Not possible at 100%. Taken with the same gfx card, settings, resolution and no AA (like the nfsu pic)
Same pics quality (about 140kb) and image size

Notice the CF hood and CF wing. That is how CF looks actually, and not the crappy grey thing in nfsu.

Juiced Demo (September 2004) vs Nfsu2 final game (November 2004)
Another one: AA 4x:

What do you say now? LOL
look yourself in the mirror: :shock:

hehe....

A last little comment.... Parts in Juiced are from real life brands. This means that it is impossible to get a think like this in Juiced:


:wink:

Now I challenge you to make a nfsu2 pic better than Juiced ones, and make me to shut up :D
Juiced is way slicker than ug2 on my computer.

my settings for nfsu2 and juiced are:
Max every gfx option
1240/1024 res (max for both) or something

Juiced looks nicest in the evening.

These are also my playable options. I dont have to worry about turning down my gfx to play or turning up for screenshots. I will try your making nfsu2 pics better than juiced challenge but I dont think its possible. When I can I will get some pics of each and then compare them.

Am I allowed to turn down the res on juiced? :lol:
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Ok, if his GFX Card can't handel NFSU2, then y r Juiced gfx 10X better and clearer? How? Explain that to me.

Apparently, Juiced is alot smoother. I got the same GFX card, and get some shiznit GFX with NFSU2. Then I have games that look alot smoother with better FPS.
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Post by Tunerfreak »

I didnt say anything about sparcos card.

Whats confusing me right now is how with sparcos card on the SAME RES that juiced looks so smoother. Its the same res so how is that possible?
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Post by Mustang90 »

Dunno. Maybe that the game uses less SYS requirements? Nah, probably adifferent GFX Engine...
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