That's almost impossible, or you have a SPECIAL EDITION 8600GTXZWEDF"W# or idk...because I have a 9800GT and I can't max it out with my Core 2 Duo E8600 and 3 gigs of DDR2 PC1066 Mhz and I suffer from that damn stuttering. Idk what you did, but for me that's almost impossible, or you have an Alienware instead of that VGA ... :SCarcrazy wrote:Geeze, someone really needs to find out the problem with this game on systems. I'm maxxed out 4xAA at 1680x1050 on a damn 8600GT with NO problems...
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Re: Your views of NFS UNDERCOVER
Most people who are having problems seem to be running running 8600/9600 series. I might indicate that that is because the 600-spec Geforce cards are fairly low spec?
Am running on 2x Gainward 8800GTX's, a quad-core Phenom X4 9750, 4GB DDR2 800 and Windows XP 64-bit. Have seen it played on a single 8800GTX and AMD Athlon X2 5000+ with 2GB DDR2 800 and it maxed out on THAT.
C'mon people, were not talking the Crytec engine here, it's just a simple racing game.
Am running on 2x Gainward 8800GTX's, a quad-core Phenom X4 9750, 4GB DDR2 800 and Windows XP 64-bit. Have seen it played on a single 8800GTX and AMD Athlon X2 5000+ with 2GB DDR2 800 and it maxed out on THAT.
C'mon people, were not talking the Crytec engine here, it's just a simple racing game.
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I just very recently installed Undercover and tried out a race.
Just at the very beginning, I couldn't believe all those choppy graphics. Worse than ProStreet on my PC. It seems as if the Nissan looks better, I also dislike the fact how you can't skip cutscenes. And not to mention the Main Menu. It's not even a real one, just a pause menu transformed into one. I also dislike the TAB button being turned into an instant race option. I'd much rather drive to the destination like in Underground 2 as long as it's not too long.
The steering system also works bad for me. It steers too rapidly which can slow down your car... a bit.
The only thing stopping it from being worse than ProStreet is the fact that it's back to street racing again, the wide car selection and I like the overall feel of speed... if you're driving with a Force Feedback wheel. I really should try a Highway Battle...
Just at the very beginning, I couldn't believe all those choppy graphics. Worse than ProStreet on my PC. It seems as if the Nissan looks better, I also dislike the fact how you can't skip cutscenes. And not to mention the Main Menu. It's not even a real one, just a pause menu transformed into one. I also dislike the TAB button being turned into an instant race option. I'd much rather drive to the destination like in Underground 2 as long as it's not too long.
The steering system also works bad for me. It steers too rapidly which can slow down your car... a bit.
The only thing stopping it from being worse than ProStreet is the fact that it's back to street racing again, the wide car selection and I like the overall feel of speed... if you're driving with a Force Feedback wheel. I really should try a Highway Battle...
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yeah that shadow is a big letdown... well i guess you're more used to all the entire smooth gameplay =b... i've always been a stutter/lowfps player lol... so it doesn't mind me at all...amiantos wrote:update:
turns out i didn't have the amd dual core optimizer installed... but installing it resulted in no difference in quality of play.
i turned shadows to low and that helped a little bit, it's more playable now, but unfortunately shadows 'pop-in' at about 30 feet from my car. when driving through a tunnel the tunnel in front of me is in shadow but the tunnel 30 feet in front of me and behind me is in sunlight. so weird and distracting.
pretty sure motion blur is causing most of the frame rate issues and i wish i could turn it off.
game is really ugly though regardless ;(
i emailed EA about a refund, honestly.
it IS ugly if you think about it... but i can ignore those details if i try hard enough =) because the car detail/texture is just BEAUTIFUL XD *stare at your car, not what's ahead of you... well you might crash but... at least you're looking at something beautiful =b* the matte paint reflection is really great
PS: oh also! i tried changing the affinity to 1 core only... and... the framerate dropped DRASTICALLY... so i turned it back up ... occasional stutter > constant 20fps
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Changed my mind. Despite the graphics, the overall feel of speed in Highway Battles, the fact that you can modify old '60s American cars into hot rods, pursuit breaker effects, camera angles, etc...
I find it fun. And maybe if you just accept it's a game and try to have fun playing it... your comments might get more positive.
But one thing that REALLY bugs me is that it suddenly stops whenever it wishes for 10-15 seconds... it's really annoying. Does anyone else have this problem?
I find it fun. And maybe if you just accept it's a game and try to have fun playing it... your comments might get more positive.
But one thing that REALLY bugs me is that it suddenly stops whenever it wishes for 10-15 seconds... it's really annoying. Does anyone else have this problem?
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Well, I guess EA finally did it - they made a game that makes Pro Street look GOOD (I certainly enjoyed it more than this resource-hog piece of coding)
I know my PC is old (but it's still waaaay above minimum specs), but the graphics are horrendous at 1024x768 and when I first started playing, I couldn't drive that 240SX AT ALL - oversteered one way then the other then back the other way... it was so bad, I actually chose to take the garden rubbish down to the dump rather than play it. However, after I obtained an Escort Cossie and now I've got a maxxed out Audi TT, they handle pretty sweeeeet
Having said that, there is one thing that I just love: Highway Battles. Something I've always wanted in a racing game on PC, racing against another car in extremely heavy traffic - just awesome.
I know my PC is old (but it's still waaaay above minimum specs), but the graphics are horrendous at 1024x768 and when I first started playing, I couldn't drive that 240SX AT ALL - oversteered one way then the other then back the other way... it was so bad, I actually chose to take the garden rubbish down to the dump rather than play it. However, after I obtained an Escort Cossie and now I've got a maxxed out Audi TT, they handle pretty sweeeeet
Having said that, there is one thing that I just love: Highway Battles. Something I've always wanted in a racing game on PC, racing against another car in extremely heavy traffic - just awesome.
Re: Your views of NFS UNDERCOVER
When it does, does the screen turn a little blue-ish? If it is, it means, it's loading some textures, that happens to me too sometimes.Nitrodemon McLaren wrote:Changed my mind. Despite the graphics, the overall feel of speed in Highway Battles, the fact that you can modify old '60s American cars into hot rods, pursuit breaker effects, camera angles, etc...
I find it fun. And maybe if you just accept it's a game and try to have fun playing it... your comments might get more positive.
But one thing that REALLY bugs me is that it suddenly stops whenever it wishes for 10-15 seconds... it's really annoying. Does anyone else have this problem?
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Ok I can't believe I finished this game, this fast. It's way too short. Maybe this could be something EA could work on more. Frame rate issues are minor for me. I'm playing on Xbox 360 btw. Decrease in frame rate happens while all the cars are closed together, or crashing into pursuit breakers; although it rarely decrease so much.
I think EA focus too much on the cut scenes that they can't focus as much on the game. Races are great, it isn't that easy or that hard to beat the AIs, they take shortcuts when you don't. They push you around like a toy. EA did a good job on the highway battle. AI crashes once in a while its heart-stopping just to run around heavy traffic or opposing traffic.
Cop chases are more thrilling then ever before. Especially in heat level 5, where SUVs and undercover police take on you. It isn't that hard to lose the chopper in the sky, even when you are out and about freely. They need to refill =.=.
Graphics are great for Xbox 360. Shadows are not THAT glitchy as some says. They get pixelated a little bit on different angle but again, it doesn't bother me muh. Chrome looks much much better now. Finally EA got the chroming part.
Overall I'll give this game around 7.5/10.
I think EA focus too much on the cut scenes that they can't focus as much on the game. Races are great, it isn't that easy or that hard to beat the AIs, they take shortcuts when you don't. They push you around like a toy. EA did a good job on the highway battle. AI crashes once in a while its heart-stopping just to run around heavy traffic or opposing traffic.
Cop chases are more thrilling then ever before. Especially in heat level 5, where SUVs and undercover police take on you. It isn't that hard to lose the chopper in the sky, even when you are out and about freely. They need to refill =.=.
Graphics are great for Xbox 360. Shadows are not THAT glitchy as some says. They get pixelated a little bit on different angle but again, it doesn't bother me muh. Chrome looks much much better now. Finally EA got the chroming part.
Overall I'll give this game around 7.5/10.
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yes... especially one circuit race in sunset hills that it had to reload like... 8? times!!!Nitrodemon McLaren wrote:But one thing that REALLY bugs me is that it suddenly stops whenever it wishes for 10-15 seconds... it's really annoying. Does anyone else have this problem?
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No, not that. That simply means it's loading the next part of the track...mrk252 wrote:When it does, does the screen turn a little blue-ish? If it is, it means, it's loading some textures, that happens to me too sometimes.Nitrodemon McLaren wrote:Changed my mind. Despite the graphics, the overall feel of speed in Highway Battles, the fact that you can modify old '60s American cars into hot rods, pursuit breaker effects, camera angles, etc...
I find it fun. And maybe if you just accept it's a game and try to have fun playing it... your comments might get more positive.
But one thing that REALLY bugs me is that it suddenly stops whenever it wishes for 10-15 seconds... it's really annoying. Does anyone else have this problem?
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Wow, really? For me it hasn't frozen more than two or three times in a race... so far.zedex wrote:yes... especially one circuit race in sunset hills that it had to reload like... 8? times!!!Nitrodemon McLaren wrote:But one thing that REALLY bugs me is that it suddenly stops whenever it wishes for 10-15 seconds... it's really annoying. Does anyone else have this problem?
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WOWZORS That is pretty impressive... great advances in gaming technology.Nitrodemon McLaren wrote: For me it hasn't frozen more than two or three times in a race... so far.
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I just played for about 1 hour NFS UNdercover, and here are my thoughts about it...
First, the graphics are not that good. The car design and the city look pretty cool, I must say, but the extreme blur it's just too annoying (is there a way to turn that off?) and the shadows suck. But other than that, I still like the graphics, though the game could be more optimized. But it doesn't freeze on my computer, I just get once in a while a drop from 50 to 27/25 FPS, but it quickly returns to normal.
The car's handling is pretty weird, I didn't try the wheel yet, I'm playing with the keyboard but I don't know. It's funny going around the traffic on the Highway Battle, doing some "drift" around the city and trying out those tricks like reversing, U-Turns and so on. But on the other hand, the car has a so weird handling that I just want to quit the game. And I already used the Hemi Cuda and the 240SX...
Then, the soundtrack has one or another track that are really appropriated for the game. But most of them suck bigtime...
The tuning is worse than the one in PS, and I thought that was impossible. The system paint is better, yes, but the rest of the tuning is equal. The same shiznit spoilers (please put back again MW, Carbon and Underground spoilers, they're great!), the hoods are just... no comments, you have some exhausts but pretty much is all the same. The bodykits are the same, and the autosculpt didn't really changed. However, we do have a ton of wheels, and I ask myself: if we have so much damn wheels to put on a car, why don't we have the same range of spoilers, hoods, front and rear bumpers, side skirts and exhausts? It's something I CAN'T understand, but ok...
I cannot say I'm really enjoying the game. The races are easy, the traffic's IA is pretty bad, and the police pursuits are not good as in MW. However, the game has some good points, but overall, and after what I played and experienced, you CANNOT tell this is Most Wanted 2. It's way worse than MW, better than PS in some aspects, but overall, Undercover had the chance to put the NFS series back on top, and instead, EA managed once again to put NFS series one step near the bottom. I'm wondering when they'll open their eyes and do a proper NFS. The fans deserve it, and me, as a long-time fan, I'm pretty disappointed and sad that things with NFS had come so low.
First, the graphics are not that good. The car design and the city look pretty cool, I must say, but the extreme blur it's just too annoying (is there a way to turn that off?) and the shadows suck. But other than that, I still like the graphics, though the game could be more optimized. But it doesn't freeze on my computer, I just get once in a while a drop from 50 to 27/25 FPS, but it quickly returns to normal.
The car's handling is pretty weird, I didn't try the wheel yet, I'm playing with the keyboard but I don't know. It's funny going around the traffic on the Highway Battle, doing some "drift" around the city and trying out those tricks like reversing, U-Turns and so on. But on the other hand, the car has a so weird handling that I just want to quit the game. And I already used the Hemi Cuda and the 240SX...
Then, the soundtrack has one or another track that are really appropriated for the game. But most of them suck bigtime...
The tuning is worse than the one in PS, and I thought that was impossible. The system paint is better, yes, but the rest of the tuning is equal. The same shiznit spoilers (please put back again MW, Carbon and Underground spoilers, they're great!), the hoods are just... no comments, you have some exhausts but pretty much is all the same. The bodykits are the same, and the autosculpt didn't really changed. However, we do have a ton of wheels, and I ask myself: if we have so much damn wheels to put on a car, why don't we have the same range of spoilers, hoods, front and rear bumpers, side skirts and exhausts? It's something I CAN'T understand, but ok...
I cannot say I'm really enjoying the game. The races are easy, the traffic's IA is pretty bad, and the police pursuits are not good as in MW. However, the game has some good points, but overall, and after what I played and experienced, you CANNOT tell this is Most Wanted 2. It's way worse than MW, better than PS in some aspects, but overall, Undercover had the chance to put the NFS series back on top, and instead, EA managed once again to put NFS series one step near the bottom. I'm wondering when they'll open their eyes and do a proper NFS. The fans deserve it, and me, as a long-time fan, I'm pretty disappointed and sad that things with NFS had come so low.
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To tell you the truth, it was a big disappointment. I thought it was gonna be a great game. Turns out I beat it in 3 days. I have the PS2 version. The cars to buy are limited (although they do have the Lamborghini Murciélago LP640), there's hardly any money to earn to buy things, and most of the map is from Need for Speed: Most Wanted. Also, the cops are easy to escape, even when your tires are blown out So, anyway the game is totally not worth buying. Does anyone have it for the Wii?
Re: Your views of NFS UNDERCOVER
IMO Undercover is a great game. I just love the gameplay and the speed sensation. The story is also pretty interesting. The game modes are fun.
But... It has tons of glitches and the cops are too easy to escape... I always dominate...
It is worth playing but it isn't worth buting.
But... It has tons of glitches and the cops are too easy to escape... I always dominate...
It is worth playing but it isn't worth buting.
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Kinda' late on this but... other than a fairly low framerate (i'd guess 25-30, still very playable,) it's been working fine. The only time it's wanted to crash was from jumping one a certain race from the GPS, so I just tabbed there from the gameplay.xturbo wrote:That's almost impossible, or you have a SPECIAL EDITION 8600GTXZWEDF"W# or idk...because I have a 9800GT and I can't max it out with my Core 2 Duo E8600 and 3 gigs of DDR2 PC1066 Mhz and I suffer from that damn stuttering. Idk what you did, but for me that's almost impossible, or you have an Alienware instead of that VGA ... :SCarcrazy wrote:Geeze, someone really needs to find out the problem with this game on systems. I'm maxxed out 4xAA at 1680x1050 on a damn 8600GT with NO problems...
How much RAM do you have?
Maybe I'm just lucky, i guess. Oh well, I'm stepping up to either 8800GT's in SLI or a GTX260-216 soon.
Hopefully.
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ftw trust me...EVGA versionis worth the price and not too late to buy either. And if you feel outdated then step up to the GTX280Carcrazy wrote:Maybe I'm just lucky, i guess. Oh well, I'm stepping up to either 8800GT's in SLI or a GTX260-216 soon.
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pusuit breaker... find cover... DONE! *my usual escape time lies around 20 to 40 seconds =b except where you start on highway and long twisty roads without ANY pursuit breakers*XCROSSX wrote:IMO Undercover is a great game. I just love the gameplay and the speed sensation. The story is also pretty interesting. The game modes are fun.
But... It has tons of glitches and the cops are too easy to escape... I always dominate...
It is worth playing but it isn't worth buting.
but the cost to state and police disabling ones are a bit tougher...
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On second though, f*** the game.
*cop rear-ends me (after a 12 minute pursuit = level 5 heat)
*f***ing swarmed with cars*
*go about 4 minutes, look for a pursuit breaker*
*come back, get surrounded in the stupidest f***ing way possible - damn zero traction on dirt roads*
*broke so I LOSE MY GOD DAMN F***ING EVO*
*/me chunks virtual copy out window - burns new one later*
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Anyway, FRAPS slows it down about, but it read 13-17FPS, so I normally get around 15-25, 15 being in a laggy spot.
And why hasn't anyone made a money hack yet? I'm about done with this BS savegame.
*cop rear-ends me (after a 12 minute pursuit = level 5 heat)
*f***ing swarmed with cars*
*go about 4 minutes, look for a pursuit breaker*
*come back, get surrounded in the stupidest f***ing way possible - damn zero traction on dirt roads*
*broke so I LOSE MY GOD DAMN F***ING EVO*
*/me chunks virtual copy out window - burns new one later*
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Anyway, FRAPS slows it down about, but it read 13-17FPS, so I normally get around 15-25, 15 being in a laggy spot.
And why hasn't anyone made a money hack yet? I'm about done with this BS savegame.
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Is there a way to hack a car back from lockup?
I want my Evo so much...
It was so pretty... and I wouldn't mind buying a new one except I spent around an hour working paint alone. =(
I want my Evo so much...
It was so pretty... and I wouldn't mind buying a new one except I spent around an hour working paint alone. =(
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Re: Your views of NFS UNDERCOVER
Not yet. EA seems to have learned from its past mistakes and made hex-editing somewhat harder this time around.
Keep an eye out on the Editing forum though.
Keep an eye out on the Editing forum though.
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Okay, being a n00b at hex editing I can't find jack. I'm sure if someone could find the address for the money slot it would make THAT a bit easier, but as it is the person that posted that other thread doesn't actually know where it is. Hell, I don't even know where they got that address from.
Anyway, I found an address in the good ol' artmoney, but if you edit it it jumps to some random number, even if you freeze it. When I looked for address in XVI32 none-such exists.
Anyway, I found an address in the good ol' artmoney, but if you edit it it jumps to some random number, even if you freeze it. When I looked for address in XVI32 none-such exists.
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I don't think you should attempt to hex-edit your savegames just yet. There's no checksum fixer available.
You can, however, still use memory editors like artmoney or tsearch.
You can, however, still use memory editors like artmoney or tsearch.
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Man, you must have been screwing around with the cops a bit too much if you got your car locked upCarcrazy wrote:Is there a way to hack a car back from lockup?
I want my Evo so much...
It was so pretty... and I wouldn't mind buying a new one except I spent around an hour working paint alone. =(
During my entire play i never got arrested once...and now i think ive missed some 'busted' animations