Kaerar wrote:LOL isn't the Scirocco R meant to only have about 200Bhp at the wheels? That makes a good case for the car then if it's that powerful compared to the brochure
I had a little 205 a while back that ate M3's for breaky up to about 140mph. Had an Mi16 conversion and running about 160Bhp (not sure if that was at the wheels or flywheel). But no stock M3 could outrun it back in 2001
Mad mad mad little cars those 205's
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They're a claimed 261 at the crank, but some have pulled significantly north of 240 at the wheels (I heard one of the Scirocco Owners Club cars pulled 250 at the wheels straight out of the box on a dynojet, that's about 300 crank HP given the 15% or so drivetrain loss through the front wheels. In reality they're around 270-290 at the crank, whereas Focus RSes are only dynoing at around 285 crank. This, plus the fact the Roc R is something like 200kg lighter than the Focus RS, is why they're considerably faster.
205's are fast as it is, Mi16 motor'ed ones even more so, but in a straight line they'll loose out to the E36 Evo/GT's and perhaps E30 Evo Sports and Evo II's (321/295bhp and 265/238bhp respectively). 5 grands worth of E36 M3 Evo, with about 3 grands worth of mods, will dip into the 7 minutes around the 'Ring and still remain daily drivable(ish)- but on a twisty, technical country road a well set up FWD car will hang right off the bumbum of a more powerful RWD/AWD car. Though up to 140 I am a little cynical of
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, seen as the GTi6 box that's usually dropped in with the Mi16 has very short ratios and tops out around 140 (though speedo will be saying closer to 150 I'd imagine).
As for power, 160 crank is relatively believable as from memory I think Mi16's are 170 new- 10hp drop over a few years sounds about right. 160 wheel is around 200-220 crank depending on whose dyno you look at, and for that you'd need some pretty intensive head work, individual throttle bodies and standalone management.