JAPANESE OR EXOTIC???

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 06 Dec 2003, 01:49

personally, i prefer japanese cars to anything. but theres only 2 cars in the world id swap mine for, and theyre both exotic (ferrari f40, tvr cerbera speed 12). then again, ive seen a supra thats faster than both of these (to 60 anyway, an nearly keeps up with tvr on top speed). whch is better? put answers up, its been an argument with me and my mate 4 ages now, and ive got money down on it:D

Om3n-PL · Post by **Om3n-PL** » 06 Dec 2003, 06:18

i just wanna tell you that the RX-7 is a good car, but the "Subaru Impreza" should be mostly used on rally expecially the "STi"

Rogue · Post by **Rogue** » 06 Dec 2003, 15:06

Just like the 4WD over here that's meant for the rugged bush but is used more often thatn not on city streets..

Koffy · Post by **Koffy** » 07 Dec 2003, 01:37

I'd prefer a Turbo 911 4WD, or an Audi Quattro.

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 07 Dec 2003, 01:51

Just wanted to point out something, sti isnt the fastest impreza, the p1 is. and i know theyre fast, i just dont like them. my brother has a p1, its the only reason my rx7 is tuned, nice bit of sibling rivalry:D

Om3n-PL · Post by **Om3n-PL** » 07 Dec 2003, 05:11

true true, but i still love the STi version.

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 09 Dec 2003, 22:22

a lot of people do. nice skyline in that pic by the way:D

Om3n-PL · Post by **Om3n-PL** » 10 Dec 2003, 02:24

why thank you its mine, but i cant seem to upload it to car showroom, ill try some time later today

UrQuattro · Post by **UrQuattro** » 20 Dec 2003, 20:06

Audi UrQuattro Sport version. That's what i'd pick as my favourite Exotica.
I just like the concept of a supercar that looks little different from stock, has the grunt to kill Evos and it's 20 (!) years old.
I-5 Turbo, 306BHP, 258lbft, 0-60 in 4.8 . You can't get closer to Group B rally days! Oh, and only 300 ever made, so I'd say you look special in it.

From Japanese - S 2000 - the best 4 cyl engine in the world.

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 21 Dec 2003, 03:02

ill agree its a good old car, but it doesnt have the grunt to kill evos im afraid. evo 8 fq300 60 in 4.3secs 330bhp, evo 7 4.5secs 276bhp, matches evo 6 tho at 4.8, but has 280bhp. despite that tho, very fast audi (stats were from http://www.fast-autos.net)

UrQuattro · Post by **UrQuattro** » 22 Dec 2003, 00:34

Both are good, the evo and the Audi. And with a skillful driver - well, it depends. Of course evo's more refined, and modern. But I just have a soft spot for Audi. I have a video of Top Gear shootout between Audi and Evo6 = I know Evo won by a mere overhang.

But here is what I have against EVO - it's too popular. Audi is rare. This makes it an Exotica. Evo is just FQ car!

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 22 Dec 2003, 23:12

Its funny, i agree with your argument over why you like the audi more, just not in the same way. i personally prefer evos to the audi, but i really hate imprezas because of how common they are....and also because theyre sh*t, and people who own them think theyre all racing drivers in formula 1 cars, when theyre not

bigtwit · Post by **bigtwit** » 22 Dec 2003, 23:17

grez ur completely rite the RX-7 is da one and only! the Impreza is way overated it is a pile of rallying s**t! if u want one u need ur head checked!

bigtwit · Post by **bigtwit** » 22 Dec 2003, 23:21

also ur car is a bute!

bigtwit · Post by **bigtwit** » 22 Dec 2003, 23:23

pacodog wrote:Audi UrQuattro Sport version. That's what i'd pick as my favourite Exotica.
I just like the concept of a supercar that looks little different from stock, has the grunt to kill Evos and it's 20 (!) years old.
I-5 Turbo, 306BHP, 258lbft, 0-60 in 4.8 . You can't get closer to Group B rally days! Oh, and only 300 ever made, so I'd say you look special in it.

From Japanese - S 2000 - the best 4 cyl engine in the world.

wht about the renault five turb or th Ford Rs200 both group b legnds!

UrQuattro · Post by **UrQuattro** » 23 Dec 2003, 03:58

Renault 5 was rear wheel drive, and legend may be, but it's looks... And RS200 - well, don't know, there is no much success behind it, when compared to Audi, Pug T16 or the S4 Lancia. That's facts. And in real life - own a renault 5, you'll be sorry for the rest of your life!

Now for the Impreza. People, why so much hate, Impcraptza and so on? Why are you SO against it? After living 2 years in the States, no other car I hate more than the CIVIC coupe/Hatch. Most people driving it on highways need a lesson in driving. Rocket exhaust, 1.6 motor, zit faced kids driving it. I am an ok driver, and on public roads obey the laws. I had 5 (!) near accident situation in Connecticut where I used to live, all with Civic's. ALL. So I am biased. But nothing annoys me more than that car.

And Impreza - yes it's overrated, but it just won a WORLD RALLY Championship. So give it a break. Besides, it's AWD, has a state of the art Boxer engine that has a nice sound to it. It's safe to drive and for the money you get good performance (interior quality and parts cost aside). Plus, most of us are only familiar with toned down imported versions, and did not see on streets the Japanese STI.

Sorry, didn't mean to get all pissed, but the Civic thing. Arghhh. It's not the Imreza I don't like. It's the little civic that thinks it's the Ultimate racer.

And to all civic drivers here - my respect, don't take it personally, please... Unless you happened to nearly crush a gray '00 Audi A4 Avant 2.8 on I-95 this or last year!!!

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 23 Dec 2003, 15:08

There are many reasons to hate imprezas. Firstly, they look like a freshly laid turd. Secondly, they are only reasonably quick, they are not the top fuel dragster which most people think they are. Thirdly, the drivers are normally complete twats (my brother only partially included lol). And as for winning the rally, look at the competiton - ford focus, citroen xsara, pug 206, not exactly fast, the mitsi evo 8 doesnt count as a competitor cos its always in the pit. So, if theres any more people out there who hate these cars as much as this, me and a mate will (hopefully) soon be setting up our own UK car club 'scooby slayers'. If we can do it, ill post details of how to join

UrQuattro · Post by **UrQuattro** » 23 Dec 2003, 18:18

In all fairness, I agree the 2nd generation Impreza looks boss eyed.
We can argue on this for a long time actually, especially the rally part.
Impreza: only good in wet (Pirelli tires). It's not the fastest, nimblest (Oh common, only Lancer is bigger), nor the most powerful. It had a good consistent and passionate pilot, Solberg, who took it to victory, a deserved on.

And as for winning the rally, look at the competition - ford focus, Citroen xsara, pug 206, not exactly fast, the mitsi evo 8 doesnt count as a competitor cos its always in the pit.

Ok, first, the Xsara is the fastest, and until Focus WRC 03 was introduced, it was the most powerful as well. Pug - it's nearly as fast as Xsara (same company). And the FORD - well, my fellow country-man Marko Martin made that car fly in Finland. And Lancer - even if it did compete, it would be crap against those cars. Too big and unreliable in WRC trim. That's why they pulled out. And don't expect a remarkable come back next year as well - the Lancer WRC04 is still testing, and won't show potential till 05.

Anyhow, to put this issue to a draw, I am posting this pic from wrc.com. Enjoy!

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 23 Dec 2003, 20:06

Still, I know whcih car Id rather own...

UrQuattro · Post by **UrQuattro** » 24 Dec 2003, 14:43

A bunch of people debated over this one, exp. the spoiler. I like this car best though, of the LANCER series (it's not EVO!), it's based on lancer sedan.

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 24 Dec 2003, 17:36

Its nice, id rather have the vo version personally

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 24 Dec 2003, 17:36

*evo version, crappy keyboard lol

DenZer · Post by **DenZer** » 24 Dec 2003, 17:56

Have to say Japanese as well

I think the evo is a nice example of just how nice a car can get

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 24 Dec 2003, 21:15

another evo

DenZer · Post by **DenZer** » 24 Dec 2003, 23:42

I'd have to say that i like them both, but if you mix them it would be totally nice

Like : put the rims and the entire front from the first onto the second, and then, Damn boy, then you'll have you a top nice Evo